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All seems rather cute when these days you can just chat about classified stuff with whoever you like on your presumably unsecured phone. And then have an unsec

All seems rather cute when these days you can just chat about classified stuff with whoever you like on your presumably unsecured phone. And then have an unsecured internet line connected to an unsecured computer in your Pentagon office[1] [1] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hegseth-signal-app-connected-dirtly-line-computer-pentagon/story?id=121142551 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hegseth-signal-app-connected...

tehjoker 1y ago
in fairness, since these guys are just doing war crime after war crime, it's a good thing if it leaks
- yubblegum 1y ago
  That does unfortunately add the element of incentive to win at all costs to the picture. c.f. PM of Israel.
  - tehjoker 1y ago
    it's true that the US-axis powers are extremely dangerous and short sighted, but they are also weakening. let's hope for victory over the empire.
    - yubblegum 1y ago
      which empire? the energy cartels or global finance? The national baton is passed on as cursory reading of Western history over the past few centuries [shows].
      - tehjoker 1y ago
        let's hope it's reaching its endpoint friend. it seems like the natural country to pick up the baton is China, but they have a sufficiently different economic system that maybe there will be a break in the chain. it depends on the strength, rationality, and solidarity of the CPC.
    - FormerBandmate 1y ago
      Whose victory over the “empire”? I think you will find whatever empire comes next will be worse
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > since these guys are just doing war crime after war crime, it's a good thing if it leaks Irrelevant. One, we’re no longer in an era of international rules-based order. All the great powers agree on this. Two, the definition of war crimes has expanded so broadly as to include any collateral damage. This overinclusiveness has rendered the term meaningless, with everyone calling everything they don’t like a war crime. There will be consequences for this administration. But not because they bombed a terrorist commander.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    > There will be consequences for this administration. Sadly, those consequences will be for the country and not the individuals involved.
  - 542354234235 1y ago
    >Two, the definition of war crimes has expanded so broadly as to include any collateral damage. This overinclusiveness has rendered the term meaningless Can you provide real examples of actual journalists or governments doing this? Random FB commenters don't know what any words mean, but I haven't seen this to be the case in actual official channels. Asserting that it is meaningless feels like trying to downplay or trivialize real war crimes that are actually happening.
psunavy03 1y ago
If you're a political appointee. I guaran-damn-tee you the proles below the rank of four-star (or possibly below Cabinet secretary) will still be getting spanked for security violations.

tehjoker 1y ago

in fairness, since these guys are just doing war crime after war crime, it's a good thing if it leaks

yubblegum 1y ago
That does unfortunately add the element of incentive to win at all costs to the picture. c.f. PM of Israel.
- tehjoker 1y ago
  it's true that the US-axis powers are extremely dangerous and short sighted, but they are also weakening. let's hope for victory over the empire.
  - yubblegum 1y ago
    which empire? the energy cartels or global finance? The national baton is passed on as cursory reading of Western history over the past few centuries [shows].
    - tehjoker 1y ago
      let's hope it's reaching its endpoint friend. it seems like the natural country to pick up the baton is China, but they have a sufficiently different economic system that maybe there will be a break in the chain. it depends on the strength, rationality, and solidarity of the CPC.
  - FormerBandmate 1y ago
    Whose victory over the “empire”? I think you will find whatever empire comes next will be worse
JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> since these guys are just doing war crime after war crime, it's a good thing if it leaks Irrelevant. One, we’re no longer in an era of international rules-based order. All the great powers agree on this. Two, the definition of war crimes has expanded so broadly as to include any collateral damage. This overinclusiveness has rendered the term meaningless, with everyone calling everything they don’t like a war crime. There will be consequences for this administration. But not because they bombed a terrorist commander.
- dylan604 1y ago
  > There will be consequences for this administration. Sadly, those consequences will be for the country and not the individuals involved.
- 542354234235 1y ago
  >Two, the definition of war crimes has expanded so broadly as to include any collateral damage. This overinclusiveness has rendered the term meaningless Can you provide real examples of actual journalists or governments doing this? Random FB commenters don't know what any words mean, but I haven't seen this to be the case in actual official channels. Asserting that it is meaningless feels like trying to downplay or trivialize real war crimes that are actually happening.

psunavy03 1y ago

If you're a political appointee. I guaran-damn-tee you the proles below the rank of four-star (or possibly below Cabinet secretary) will still be getting spanked for security violations.