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Mistral really became what all the other over-hyped EU AI start-ups / collectives (Stability, Eleuther, Aleph Alpha, Nyonic, possibly Black Forest Labs, governm
by beernet 1y ago
Mistral really became what all the other over-hyped EU AI start-ups / collectives (Stability, Eleuther, Aleph Alpha, Nyonic, possibly Black Forest Labs, government-funded collaborations, ...) failed to achieve, although many of them existed way before Mistral. Congrats to them, great work.
- stogot 1y agoI’m wondering why. More funding, better talent, strategy, or something else?
- agumonkey 1y agoi'm an outsider but none of the startups mentioned above ever came to my ears. Mistral suddenly popped after openai/anthropic exploded, and they were rapidly described as the 3rd contender, with emphasis on technical merit. Maybe i was fooled though.
- danielbln 1y agoBlack Forest Labs are the makers of FLUX, which for a while was the best open image model available (and generally a pretty strong image model). That said, now with a wave of Chinese models and the advent of autoregressive image models, I'm not sure how much that will stay true.
- Palmik 1y agoIt feels to me they turned into a generic AI consulting & solutions company. That does not mean it's a bad business, especially since they might benefit from the "built in EU" spin (whether through government contracts, regulation, or otherwise). One can deploy similar solution (on-prem) using better and more cost efficient open-source models and infrastructure already. What Mistral offers here is managing that deployment for you, but there's nothing stopping other companies doing the same with fully open stack. And those will have the benefit of not wasting money on R&D.
- jamesblonde 1y agoThat's what we do with Hopsworks - EU built platform for developing and operating AI systems. We have customers running DeepSeek-v3 and Llama models. I never thought about slapping a Chat UI on it and selling the Chat app as a ready made product for the sovereign AI market. But why not.
- bobxmax 1y agois Mistral really doing anything here? Llama models are open source, Cohere runs on prem etc
- retinaros 1y agowhat did they achieve exactly?
- beernet 1y agoSigns of market traction and executing on product development. All other mentioned companies never made it there.