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> Posthog - its SaaS is US based so dismissed early by EU customers. Posthog has had an EU server for years. I'm not sure what you mean by this.

openplatypus 1y ago
It is US company. It does not matter where the servers are physically located.
- _heimdall 1y ago
  It would be quite funny to reply to an NSA request by saying "Oh yeah, I have that data and can access it but its on a server in the EU. I can get it, but I won't." I genuinely don't know how they would proceed, but it'd be interesting to watch.
  - jillyboel 1y ago
    Some not-so-friendly men in suits will show up at your house. Afterwards you will most certainly comply.
    - tonyhart7 1y ago
      I mean if you can even refuse that, this is national agency we talking about They can physically tap global internet cable just because they can
  - tonyhart7 1y ago
    ok if that possible, what makes EU agency not doing the same to EU base company then???
    - _heimdall 1y ago
      Well the EU absolutely could do the same thing. If an EU-based company had servers in the US, I would expect the EU could compel them to hand over data despite where the data is stored.
      - bjelkeman-again 1y ago
        The EU doesn’t do law enforcement. That is a national concern. But a legal request from one country to another may well happen.
        _heimdall 1y ago
        I misspoke there, I was meaning Europe and shouldn't have put EU. Agreed, the union doesn't have any enforcement mechanism I'm aware of that would fit, but any country in Europe could do a similar thing to companies based in their borders.
    - __m 1y ago
      The EU doesn't have something like the CLOUD Act, so they wouldn't be able to do that.
    - danielheath 1y ago
      EU doesn’t have that kind of agency. Member states have spy agencies, but they also signed treaties to join the EU. Having your spy agency violate international treaties isn’t something most governments allow.
    - blitzar 1y ago
      If the company or individual is in a country, expect they can be compelled to hand over everything in their possession by a court order (or it can be siezed). If the information is stored in a country, expect that the owner of the information can be compelled to hand it over by a court order (or it can be seized).
  - guappa 1y ago
    Probably randomly find 3kg of cocaine on your person.
tom_y 1y ago
Niche markets always allow good products to survive.
withinboredom 1y ago
An EU server isn't enough. Those EU servers should be operated and maintained by an EU subsidy that licenses the tech from the US company. In other words, even if the US company wanted the data served by the EU company, they couldn't get to it.

openplatypus 1y ago

It is US company. It does not matter where the servers are physically located.

_heimdall 1y ago
It would be quite funny to reply to an NSA request by saying "Oh yeah, I have that data and can access it but its on a server in the EU. I can get it, but I won't." I genuinely don't know how they would proceed, but it'd be interesting to watch.
- jillyboel 1y ago
  Some not-so-friendly men in suits will show up at your house. Afterwards you will most certainly comply.
  - tonyhart7 1y ago
    I mean if you can even refuse that, this is national agency we talking about They can physically tap global internet cable just because they can
- tonyhart7 1y ago
  ok if that possible, what makes EU agency not doing the same to EU base company then???
  - _heimdall 1y ago
    Well the EU absolutely could do the same thing. If an EU-based company had servers in the US, I would expect the EU could compel them to hand over data despite where the data is stored.
    - bjelkeman-again 1y ago
      The EU doesn’t do law enforcement. That is a national concern. But a legal request from one country to another may well happen.
      - _heimdall 1y ago
        I misspoke there, I was meaning Europe and shouldn't have put EU. Agreed, the union doesn't have any enforcement mechanism I'm aware of that would fit, but any country in Europe could do a similar thing to companies based in their borders.
  - __m 1y ago
    The EU doesn't have something like the CLOUD Act, so they wouldn't be able to do that.
  - danielheath 1y ago
    EU doesn’t have that kind of agency. Member states have spy agencies, but they also signed treaties to join the EU. Having your spy agency violate international treaties isn’t something most governments allow.
  - blitzar 1y ago
    If the company or individual is in a country, expect they can be compelled to hand over everything in their possession by a court order (or it can be siezed). If the information is stored in a country, expect that the owner of the information can be compelled to hand it over by a court order (or it can be seized).
- guappa 1y ago
  Probably randomly find 3kg of cocaine on your person.

tom_y 1y ago

Niche markets always allow good products to survive.

withinboredom 1y ago

An EU server isn't enough. Those EU servers should be operated and maintained by an EU subsidy that licenses the tech from the US company. In other words, even if the US company wanted the data served by the EU company, they couldn't get to it.