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Are these open source and locally hosted? Or you must share your data with a big corporation to use them?

by neves 1y ago

pc86 1y ago
Is sharing your data with a startup or small company any better than sharing it with a big corporation?
- haswell 1y ago
  Potentially yes, but depends very much on the privacy policy and data handling promises being made. I think the instinct to distrust big companies is at least partly because many of them have already proven not to be good stewards of data which when combined with their scale has more worrisome implications. With a smaller/newer player, at least there’s some hope that they’re not capable of the same harms at a smaller scale, and in some cases may market themselves specifically as a more private alternative. Whether or not this turns out to be true in practice and over the long run is another thing.
  - betterThanTexas 1y ago
    Hope ain't the same thing as trust, though. A small player would need to make a pretty significant effort to suggest they wouldn't abuse your usage-patterns.
  - j16sdiz 1y ago
    Startup have high chance being acquired. The new owner will get all your data, no matter you trust them or not.
    - haswell 1y ago
      Yeah, that’s the big issue and what I was alluding to in the last paragraph. It’d be nice to have products that aren’t created with the aim of being acquired, and/or companies that remain committed to their original mission.
- dec0dedab0de 1y ago
  It's open source and locally hosted, you don't have to share your data with anyone.
nm980 1y ago
PostHog and Plausible are both open source and not backed by big corporations but if sharing data to third parties and being open source is a concern (which seems to be the selling point rybbit.io is targeting) I would expect users to self host instead of paying for a hosted plan anyways?
betterThanTexas 1y ago
> Or you must share your data with a big corporation to use them? I'm choking on the irony

Are these open source and locally hosted? Or you must share your data with a big corporation to use them?

by neves 1y ago

Are these open source and locally hosted? Or you must share your data with a big corporation to use them?

pc86 1y ago

Is sharing your data with a startup or small company any better than sharing it with a big corporation?

haswell 1y ago
Potentially yes, but depends very much on the privacy policy and data handling promises being made. I think the instinct to distrust big companies is at least partly because many of them have already proven not to be good stewards of data which when combined with their scale has more worrisome implications. With a smaller/newer player, at least there’s some hope that they’re not capable of the same harms at a smaller scale, and in some cases may market themselves specifically as a more private alternative. Whether or not this turns out to be true in practice and over the long run is another thing.
- betterThanTexas 1y ago
  Hope ain't the same thing as trust, though. A small player would need to make a pretty significant effort to suggest they wouldn't abuse your usage-patterns.
- j16sdiz 1y ago
  Startup have high chance being acquired. The new owner will get all your data, no matter you trust them or not.
  - haswell 1y ago
    Yeah, that’s the big issue and what I was alluding to in the last paragraph. It’d be nice to have products that aren’t created with the aim of being acquired, and/or companies that remain committed to their original mission.
dec0dedab0de 1y ago
It's open source and locally hosted, you don't have to share your data with anyone.

nm980 1y ago

PostHog and Plausible are both open source and not backed by big corporations but if sharing data to third parties and being open source is a concern (which seems to be the selling point rybbit.io is targeting) I would expect users to self host instead of paying for a hosted plan anyways?

betterThanTexas 1y ago

> Or you must share your data with a big corporation to use them? I'm choking on the irony