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Is it normal to expect a process to work when you don't follow the process?
by itsoktocry 1y ago
Is it normal to expect a process to work when you don't follow the process?
- kenjackson 1y agoPart of any process is the ability to follow it. If you tell me you can drive blind folded by just memorizing the streets and driving precisely -- does that mean the process really works if no one can do it?
- alabastervlog 1y agoIt's normal not to call that an effective intervention when only a small minority of the population can pull it off. Things that do work ultimately do so by that mechanism (of course!) but not via people trying to eat better and exercise more per se. They do it by changing the circumstances under which a person is making decisions about eating and living, so better eating and more exercise in-fact happen, consistently and enduringly. From most- to least-effective, over the long haul, it looks something like this: 1) GLP-1 agonists & friends, 2) Move to a skinnier country, [a large gap] 3) Months and months, probably with periodic long refresher-sessions every year or two if you want it to actually last, of high-touch expensive help from multiple specialists, amounting to hours per week. This is the gold standard for what "actually works" as far as what can be done as an intervention, before Ozempic and such, and its outcomes are... so-so. [another large gap] 4) Basically any diet & exercise plans or attempts to simply "eat less and move more" (throw gastric bypass and stuff like that in there somewhere, not quite sure where they fall)