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I agree, I think it's dancing around the issue of identification, possibly undocumented persons, international students and cultural sensitivity. To push for gr

I agree, I think it's dancing around the issue of identification, possibly undocumented persons, international students and cultural sensitivity. To push for greater identity verification could be interpreted by some as leaning in towards the mandatory ID political issue. Basically, schools don't want to be seen supporting mandatory ID because it makes them look aligned with the conservatives/Trump.

QuadmasterXLII 1y ago
It’s not really about looks. If you collect this data, and enroll a student who is seeking asylum, the current administration will attempt to get this data from you to send your student to life in prison in El Salvador. Which is an impact a bit beyond looking aligned. (Of course, reasonable people can disagree about whether life in prison is an appropriate punishment for seeking asylum through legal channels)
- rdtsc 1y ago
  > If you collect this data, and enroll a student who is seeking asylum > a student who is seeking asylum, the current administration will attempt to get this data from you to send your student to life in prison in El Salvador. That could make sense at one level, yeah. But doesn't US CIS already have contact information for all who applied for asylum in order to process the asylum application? And besides, this doesn't seem like an issue that just started this year.
- gotoeleven 1y ago
  Surely there is something that can be done in between "Giving them free taxpayer money without verifying that they exist" and "sending them to prison in el salvador for the crime of applying for asylum"
  - jfengel 1y ago
    Sure. But "sending them to prison for the crime of applying for asylum" is the position in power at the moment, and they don't seem to be amenable to compromise. So you accept that as a fait accompli and design your own actions around that.
    - rdtsc 1y ago
      > But "sending them to prison for the crime of applying for asylum" is the position in power at the moment, But if they applied for asylum doesn't the US govt already have their information in order to, well, process the asylum application. So, there is nothing for SF College to hide. Not saying that it all has to make sense, but that part doesn't seem to add up somehow.
      - Duwensatzaj 1y ago
        Oh it makes sense when you translate “applying for asylum “ to the more accurate “illegal alien asking for government money”.

QuadmasterXLII 1y ago

It’s not really about looks. If you collect this data, and enroll a student who is seeking asylum, the current administration will attempt to get this data from you to send your student to life in prison in El Salvador. Which is an impact a bit beyond looking aligned. (Of course, reasonable people can disagree about whether life in prison is an appropriate punishment for seeking asylum through legal channels)

rdtsc 1y ago
> If you collect this data, and enroll a student who is seeking asylum > a student who is seeking asylum, the current administration will attempt to get this data from you to send your student to life in prison in El Salvador. That could make sense at one level, yeah. But doesn't US CIS already have contact information for all who applied for asylum in order to process the asylum application? And besides, this doesn't seem like an issue that just started this year.
gotoeleven 1y ago
Surely there is something that can be done in between "Giving them free taxpayer money without verifying that they exist" and "sending them to prison in el salvador for the crime of applying for asylum"
- jfengel 1y ago
  Sure. But "sending them to prison for the crime of applying for asylum" is the position in power at the moment, and they don't seem to be amenable to compromise. So you accept that as a fait accompli and design your own actions around that.
  - rdtsc 1y ago
    > But "sending them to prison for the crime of applying for asylum" is the position in power at the moment, But if they applied for asylum doesn't the US govt already have their information in order to, well, process the asylum application. So, there is nothing for SF College to hide. Not saying that it all has to make sense, but that part doesn't seem to add up somehow.
    - Duwensatzaj 1y ago
      Oh it makes sense when you translate “applying for asylum “ to the more accurate “illegal alien asking for government money”.