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> Remember, you can get blood from humans in your own country, and prepare it there. So, why do you need it from the US? Random hypothesis: • equipment needs

by derefr 1y ago

> Remember, you can get blood from humans in your own country, and prepare it there. So, why do you need it from the US? Random hypothesis: • equipment needs for uranium enrichment for Manhattan project in 1940s => US cornering the market on centrifuges (in both a "we buy them all" sense and a "we won't let companies sell them to other state actors in quantity" sense) for decades => US biomedical manufacturing of anything requiring centrifuging as a step, quickly outstripping that of all other countries => eventual global logistical dependence on US-based suppliers for such products

philipkglass 1y ago
Centrifuge enrichment was considered for the Manhattan Project but rejected because early experiments encountered many problems: https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Processes/UraniumSeparation/centrifuges.html https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Proce... Centrifuge uranium enrichment wasn't developed to an industrial scale until the 1960s, and it first happened outside the United States: https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/conversion-enrichment-and-fabrication/uranium-enrichment https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-c...
daedrdev 1y ago
In reality simply that the US lets you pay people for blood plasma, an the market does the rest. There are similar arguments made for kidney donation. Paying people a set amount kidneys is exploiting the poor, but most those who need kidneys are not well off and there is an enormous shortage causing massive shortages, so some argue that we should pay since society would be net better off.
- eru 1y ago
  If memory serves right, Iran allows compensating people for kidneys.
eru 1y ago
The centrifuges needed for biology (or medicine) are very different beasts from those you need for uranium enrichment. Miele and Bosch makes great centrifuges for their washing machines. That technology is probably closer to what you need for blood, than the uranium enrichment equipment would be.

by derefr 1y ago

philipkglass 1y ago

Centrifuge enrichment was considered for the Manhattan Project but rejected because early experiments encountered many problems: https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Processes/UraniumSeparation/centrifuges.html https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Proce... Centrifuge uranium enrichment wasn't developed to an industrial scale until the 1960s, and it first happened outside the United States: https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/conversion-enrichment-and-fabrication/uranium-enrichment https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-c...

daedrdev 1y ago

In reality simply that the US lets you pay people for blood plasma, an the market does the rest. There are similar arguments made for kidney donation. Paying people a set amount kidneys is exploiting the poor, but most those who need kidneys are not well off and there is an enormous shortage causing massive shortages, so some argue that we should pay since society would be net better off.

eru 1y ago
If memory serves right, Iran allows compensating people for kidneys.

eru 1y ago

The centrifuges needed for biology (or medicine) are very different beasts from those you need for uranium enrichment. Miele and Bosch makes great centrifuges for their washing machines. That technology is probably closer to what you need for blood, than the uranium enrichment equipment would be.