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Ozempic reduces addictive behaviors, it's effectively a drug to improve discipline more than directly a weight loss drug.

betterThanTexas 1y ago
I don't think you can call should discipline if it implies a dependence on industry. What concerns me is how people will behave when industry leaves our lives.
- JoshTriplett 1y ago
  > What concerns me is how people will behave when industry leaves our lives. If that happened, many many people would die of preventable medical conditions, or starvation, or many other causes. Let's avoid that.
  - betterThanTexas 1y ago
    > Let's avoid that. Good luck.
- matthewcford 1y ago
  I've tried it, as even a low dose gives the person much more willpower to make other life changes, which have nothing to do with the effects of feeling fuller. Ozempic and other GLP-1 agonists can: Modulate dopamine release in brain regions associated with reward and motivation, such as the mesolimbic system and nucleus accumbens. Reduce the rewarding effects of food and possibly other addictive substances, which may explain the increased sense of control or willpower. Some studies in animals show that semaglutide can alter dopamine metabolism and suppress dopamine-driven behaviors.
jorvi 1y ago
It is a drug that suppresses addictive behavior. Developing discipline is developing the ability to delay gratification for greater reward. Taking away the (need for) gratification means not having to learn the ability to delay.
- const_cast 1y ago
  A lot of people never need to learn the ability to delay, me included. I eat whatever I want, whenever I want, and I’m thin. Peoples brains are all wired differently, and some are wired in such a way where they’re forced to struggle in modern society. I can sit here and say I’m more disciplined or better than others, but I’m just not. I’m lucky. If others can harness that luck, that’s good for them.

betterThanTexas 1y ago

I don't think you can call should discipline if it implies a dependence on industry. What concerns me is how people will behave when industry leaves our lives.

JoshTriplett 1y ago
> What concerns me is how people will behave when industry leaves our lives. If that happened, many many people would die of preventable medical conditions, or starvation, or many other causes. Let's avoid that.
- betterThanTexas 1y ago
  > Let's avoid that. Good luck.
matthewcford 1y ago
I've tried it, as even a low dose gives the person much more willpower to make other life changes, which have nothing to do with the effects of feeling fuller. Ozempic and other GLP-1 agonists can: Modulate dopamine release in brain regions associated with reward and motivation, such as the mesolimbic system and nucleus accumbens. Reduce the rewarding effects of food and possibly other addictive substances, which may explain the increased sense of control or willpower. Some studies in animals show that semaglutide can alter dopamine metabolism and suppress dopamine-driven behaviors.

jorvi 1y ago

It is a drug that suppresses addictive behavior. Developing discipline is developing the ability to delay gratification for greater reward. Taking away the (need for) gratification means not having to learn the ability to delay.

const_cast 1y ago
A lot of people never need to learn the ability to delay, me included. I eat whatever I want, whenever I want, and I’m thin. Peoples brains are all wired differently, and some are wired in such a way where they’re forced to struggle in modern society. I can sit here and say I’m more disciplined or better than others, but I’m just not. I’m lucky. If others can harness that luck, that’s good for them.