> I wonder if building these mental models has become more difficult with the rise of multi-layered/full-featured programming frameworks. I very much suspect t

> I wonder if building these mental models has become more difficult with the rise of multi-layered/full-featured programming frameworks. I very much suspect this is one of the reasons that motivated Ken and Rob to create Go. And see also Ken's comments about C++ at the recent Turing award winners celebration. ( http://amturing.acm.org/acm_tcc_webcasts.cfm http://amturing.acm.org/acm_tcc_webcasts.cfm )