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> decolonisation effort Kashmiris on the Indian side are citizens (unlike in "colonies"). AFSPA must be phased out but Kashmir isn't the only Indian state that

> decolonisation effort Kashmiris on the Indian side are citizens (unlike in "colonies"). AFSPA must be phased out but Kashmir isn't the only Indian state that's subject to it. > neither side is concerned with the wellbeing of anyone in Kashmir Yeah, the issue is too good to give up for (religion-based) politics and (military-industrial) businesses, on both sides of the border. Reminds of me this Bollywood movie dialogue: https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/RJAJdYw3ctw https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/RJAJdYw3ctw

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> Kashmiris on the Indian side are citizens (unlike in "colonies") Since when has that prevented any government from negotiating borders? > the issue is too good to give up for (religion-based) politics and (military-industrial) businesses, on both sides of the border Yup. I’d add that the citizens of both countries legitimately despise each other. Not genocidally, for the most part, but dismissively to each others’ humanity. So it’s not like you have to go full manufactured consent to develop jingoism.
- ignoramous 1y ago
  > I'd add that the citizens of both countries legitimately despise each other I've been to towns on both sides throughout the years and this isn't the case everywhere. Though, disagreements do run deep, as contrasting narratives are in fact mainstream talking points. Hopefully, in my lifetime, the countries resolve their differences & cast aside the hateful fringe like they should. > negotiating borders That's a very different thing to "decolonisation". > manufactured consent to develop jingoism They have to. A widow survivor of the Pahalgam Attack called for peace and the jingoists lost their collective minds: https://x.com/RahulSeeker/status/1919771002013118540 https://x.com/RahulSeeker/status/1919771002013118540 India is 1.6bn people and even if 7% disagree, that's a 100mn people (and the number is far greater than 7%). Not everyone is a right-wing nationalist, though, the ruling parties and the now-compromised MSMs are.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> Kashmiris on the Indian side are citizens (unlike in "colonies") Since when has that prevented any government from negotiating borders? > the issue is too good to give up for (religion-based) politics and (military-industrial) businesses, on both sides of the border Yup. I’d add that the citizens of both countries legitimately despise each other. Not genocidally, for the most part, but dismissively to each others’ humanity. So it’s not like you have to go full manufactured consent to develop jingoism.

ignoramous 1y ago
> I'd add that the citizens of both countries legitimately despise each other I've been to towns on both sides throughout the years and this isn't the case everywhere. Though, disagreements do run deep, as contrasting narratives are in fact mainstream talking points. Hopefully, in my lifetime, the countries resolve their differences & cast aside the hateful fringe like they should. > negotiating borders That's a very different thing to "decolonisation". > manufactured consent to develop jingoism They have to. A widow survivor of the Pahalgam Attack called for peace and the jingoists lost their collective minds: https://x.com/RahulSeeker/status/1919771002013118540 https://x.com/RahulSeeker/status/1919771002013118540 India is 1.6bn people and even if 7% disagree, that's a 100mn people (and the number is far greater than 7%). Not everyone is a right-wing nationalist, though, the ruling parties and the now-compromised MSMs are.