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I wonder how Apple is going to deal with this Windows 8/UEFI situation w.r.t Boot Camp. If they totally ditched Windows 8 support it would spell at least a litt

I wonder how Apple is going to deal with this Windows 8/UEFI situation w.r.t Boot Camp. If they totally ditched Windows 8 support it would spell at least a little bit of (well deserved, IMHO) trouble for Microsoft. This really is getting out of hand Microsoft - this stupidity that Secure Boot is - it isn't solving any real problem for the user. It is only creating nuisance.

cooldeal 14y ago
Windows 8 will boot without UEFI or secure boot. So this will not make any difference to Apple.
- blinkingled 14y ago
  Ah ok - I wasn't aware - I thought it was technically mandatory. Looks like to get Windows certified logo manufacturers will have to do secure boot. Apple couldn't care less about that which is good for Boot Campers. Still though this whole thing is nonsensical - wonder if they were waiting for the antitrust era oversight to end (May 2011) before trying this schtick.
alter8 14y ago
> it isn't solving any real problem for the user. It is only creating nuisance. That's the whole purpose of it - creating enough nuisance so that average Joe can't get out of Windows ecosystem. Each OEM will implement the disabling option in their own obscure way, and some of them will even fail to work properly. I remember when I needed one boot pendrive for each of my computers.
npsimons 14y ago
it isn't solving any real problem for the user. It is only creating nuisance. And what makes you think they give two shits about what users want? Anyone who has been paying any attention at all to the computer industry for the last three decades would have learned by now that Microsoft doesn't serve "users"; they have always been the "safe" choice for "business" ("no one ever got fired for choosing Microsoft!"), and recently they have become dogs in the laps of the crony capitalist cartels of the entertainment industry. Microsoft has always been about anti-competition and locking the user to their platform; this recent offensive of "secure boot" just gives a bonus of the DRM that the entertainment racketeers so badly want.
- throwacct123 14y ago
  You have no idea what you are talking about. What entertainment cartel? Where have they ever helped out the RIAA on their OS? Give us a citation. Your hate is alright; people like you never learned to do anything except throw mud at others. Jeez, what a douche bag.
edandersen 14y ago
Why is this utter shocking nonsense being voted up? Windows 8 boots and installs on systems without UEFI. Does OSX?
- Metrop0218 14y ago
  Yeah it's definitely rageworthy when that happens.

cooldeal 14y ago

Windows 8 will boot without UEFI or secure boot. So this will not make any difference to Apple.

blinkingled 14y ago
Ah ok - I wasn't aware - I thought it was technically mandatory. Looks like to get Windows certified logo manufacturers will have to do secure boot. Apple couldn't care less about that which is good for Boot Campers. Still though this whole thing is nonsensical - wonder if they were waiting for the antitrust era oversight to end (May 2011) before trying this schtick.

alter8 14y ago

> it isn't solving any real problem for the user. It is only creating nuisance. That's the whole purpose of it - creating enough nuisance so that average Joe can't get out of Windows ecosystem. Each OEM will implement the disabling option in their own obscure way, and some of them will even fail to work properly. I remember when I needed one boot pendrive for each of my computers.

npsimons 14y ago

it isn't solving any real problem for the user. It is only creating nuisance. And what makes you think they give two shits about what users want? Anyone who has been paying any attention at all to the computer industry for the last three decades would have learned by now that Microsoft doesn't serve "users"; they have always been the "safe" choice for "business" ("no one ever got fired for choosing Microsoft!"), and recently they have become dogs in the laps of the crony capitalist cartels of the entertainment industry. Microsoft has always been about anti-competition and locking the user to their platform; this recent offensive of "secure boot" just gives a bonus of the DRM that the entertainment racketeers so badly want.

throwacct123 14y ago
You have no idea what you are talking about. What entertainment cartel? Where have they ever helped out the RIAA on their OS? Give us a citation. Your hate is alright; people like you never learned to do anything except throw mud at others. Jeez, what a douche bag.

edandersen 14y ago

Why is this utter shocking nonsense being voted up? Windows 8 boots and installs on systems without UEFI. Does OSX?

Metrop0218 14y ago
Yeah it's definitely rageworthy when that happens.