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a) It's 15% for most developers. b) Buying a product through IAP is one click. Versus having to go to a signup page, provide details, enter credit card details

a) It's 15% for most developers. b) Buying a product through IAP is one click. Versus having to go to a signup page, provide details, enter credit card details, wait for credit card verification flows etc. The drop off in conversions during this can be often greater than 15%. c) Apple's centralised subscription management has been extremely useful and consumer friendly. Versus having to now deal with NY Times style scam tactics for every subscription again.

gjsman-1000 1y ago
Now calculate the drop off every time someone saw the prompt: “Please confirm your Apple ID password.” I’m sure it’s substantial over the years. As for point C, I really don’t care, every monopoly has had at least some advantages. We could make this even better by giving Visa a monopoly and having them build a web portal.
- brewdad 1y ago
  You can turn that prompt off if it bothers you.
RandallBrown 1y ago
C is my biggest reason I'm not looking forward to these changes. I love having a single dashboard for all my subscriptions and having an easy way to cancel them.
asadotzler 1y ago
b) Apple Pay on Stripe seems a pretty low friction experience for web purchases. My app has a "buy" button that pops up a Safari window with an Apple Pay button the user clicks. Sure, it's an extra click but I doubt it's a slam dunk that the extra click is going to consistently cut conversions by 15% (or 30% for big outfits.)
paxys 1y ago
B is also one click, considering Stripe and others already offer Apple Pay as a payment option. For C, customers can choose to continue using Apple's subscription management if they think it's worth the 30% premium that Apple charges. Or Apple could reduce the price to something more reasonable (Stripe Billing offers a similar feature set and costs 0.7%).

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a) It's 15% for most developers. b) Buying a product through IAP is one click. Versus having to go to a signup page, provide details, enter credit card details

by threeseed 1y ago

gjsman-1000 1y ago
Now calculate the drop off every time someone saw the prompt: “Please confirm your Apple ID password.” I’m sure it’s substantial over the years. As for point C, I really don’t care, every monopoly has had at least some advantages. We could make this even better by giving Visa a monopoly and having them build a web portal.
- brewdad 1y ago
  You can turn that prompt off if it bothers you.
RandallBrown 1y ago
C is my biggest reason I'm not looking forward to these changes. I love having a single dashboard for all my subscriptions and having an easy way to cancel them.
asadotzler 1y ago
b) Apple Pay on Stripe seems a pretty low friction experience for web purchases. My app has a "buy" button that pops up a Safari window with an Apple Pay button the user clicks. Sure, it's an extra click but I doubt it's a slam dunk that the extra click is going to consistently cut conversions by 15% (or 30% for big outfits.)
paxys 1y ago
B is also one click, considering Stripe and others already offer Apple Pay as a payment option. For C, customers can choose to continue using Apple's subscription management if they think it's worth the 30% premium that Apple charges. Or Apple could reduce the price to something more reasonable (Stripe Billing offers a similar feature set and costs 0.7%).