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I think he's going to be in defacto prison. He might as well take it on the chin and do his time for rape.

by cremnob 14y ago

JCB_K 14y ago
The problem with that approach is that he expects be extradited to the US as soon as he gets to Sweden. Oh and you might call it nitpicking, but he's not convicted of rape yet, let alone charged with it.
- AndrewDucker 14y ago
  I still don't understand why Sweden is considered more likely to extradite to the US than Britain is...
  - nhoj 14y ago
    I don't think many consider Sweden to be that. Maybe he is just trying to escape his accusations in Sweden?
    - indiecore 14y ago
      No, they've offered several times to allow Swedish officials to conduct whatever formalities they need to in the UK. They've refused. Sweden also has a history of dropping prisoners off at the airport where they get met by people who are DEFINITELY NOT CIA agents and disappeared.
  - gsb 14y ago
    In the UK an judge may make an independent determination that his 'crimes' are of a political nature and therefore not extraditable. In Sweden, there is a newish form of extradition, temporary surrender, where it is thought the decision can effectively be made by politicians instead of judges. Is he better off with a judge or a politician? Sweden has recent form for taking legal shortcuts in this area.
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yuvadam 14y ago
He won't be in jail for rape. From all evidence it is clear that he will be extradited to the US where he just might face the death penalty.
- sp332 14y ago
  There's a lot of speculation about this but I haven't seen actual evidence. Our extradition laws with the UK are actually stronger than with Sweden so why wait for him to be in Sweden?
  - luriel 14y ago
    > There's a lot of speculation about this but I haven't seen actual evidence. Because there is none, it is a matter of legal record that it is MUCH easier for the US to extradite somebody from the UK than from Sweden. But that simple fact (which Assange himself acknowledged in the past!) is rather inconvenient when you are trying to build some conspiracy theory.
- drone 14y ago
  And, on exactly what charges would he receive the death penalty? The death penalty under Federal charges is not exactly something that's handed out like candy. Since 1963 only three people have been given the death penalty at the federal level, and all were murderers.
  - jetti 14y ago
    Well they are trying to hit Assange with the Espionage Act, though the exact punishment for that hasn't readily turned up in my searches. If they could nail him with treason, he would certainly be up for the death penalty, however, since Assange is not a US citizen and therefore doesn't owe allegiance to the US, I don't think he would be able to be charged with it (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381)
  - hetman 14y ago
    The US federal government retains the legal right to the death penalty for cases of espionage.

I think he's going to be in defacto prison. He might as well take it on the chin and do his time for rape.

by cremnob 14y ago

I think he's going to be in defacto prison. He might as well take it on the chin and do his time for rape.

JCB_K 14y ago

The problem with that approach is that he expects be extradited to the US as soon as he gets to Sweden. Oh and you might call it nitpicking, but he's not convicted of rape yet, let alone charged with it.

AndrewDucker 14y ago
I still don't understand why Sweden is considered more likely to extradite to the US than Britain is...
- nhoj 14y ago
  I don't think many consider Sweden to be that. Maybe he is just trying to escape his accusations in Sweden?
  - indiecore 14y ago
    No, they've offered several times to allow Swedish officials to conduct whatever formalities they need to in the UK. They've refused. Sweden also has a history of dropping prisoners off at the airport where they get met by people who are DEFINITELY NOT CIA agents and disappeared.
- gsb 14y ago
  In the UK an judge may make an independent determination that his 'crimes' are of a political nature and therefore not extraditable. In Sweden, there is a newish form of extradition, temporary surrender, where it is thought the decision can effectively be made by politicians instead of judges. Is he better off with a judge or a politician? Sweden has recent form for taking legal shortcuts in this area.
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yuvadam 14y ago

He won't be in jail for rape. From all evidence it is clear that he will be extradited to the US where he just might face the death penalty.

sp332 14y ago
There's a lot of speculation about this but I haven't seen actual evidence. Our extradition laws with the UK are actually stronger than with Sweden so why wait for him to be in Sweden?
- luriel 14y ago
  > There's a lot of speculation about this but I haven't seen actual evidence. Because there is none, it is a matter of legal record that it is MUCH easier for the US to extradite somebody from the UK than from Sweden. But that simple fact (which Assange himself acknowledged in the past!) is rather inconvenient when you are trying to build some conspiracy theory.
drone 14y ago
And, on exactly what charges would he receive the death penalty? The death penalty under Federal charges is not exactly something that's handed out like candy. Since 1963 only three people have been given the death penalty at the federal level, and all were murderers.
- jetti 14y ago
  Well they are trying to hit Assange with the Espionage Act, though the exact punishment for that hasn't readily turned up in my searches. If they could nail him with treason, he would certainly be up for the death penalty, however, since Assange is not a US citizen and therefore doesn't owe allegiance to the US, I don't think he would be able to be charged with it (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381)
- hetman 14y ago
  The US federal government retains the legal right to the death penalty for cases of espionage.