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Even Wikipedia says Whataboutism can be completely deserved in some cases. It is absolutely deserved here - Apple built a 100 foot tower, and it's grown hairy

Even Wikipedia says Whataboutism can be completely deserved in some cases. It is absolutely deserved here - Apple built a 100 foot tower, and it's grown hairy over the last few decades. Linux built 7 30 foot towers without stairs in the same timeframe; but yelling about the overgrowth on the 100 foot tower is still somehow defensible. If they can't build their own towers correctly, they have no right to act like the main tower was built worse than their own. (Edit, posting too fast: For the complaint that Apple has money, Linux does too. 90%+ of work on Linux comes from corporate sponsorship, and has since 2004 when it was first counted. They are fully capable of doing better.)

mixmastamyk 1y ago
Apple has money… like coming out of their ears.
hshdhdhj4444 1y ago
Corporate sponsors on Linux provide a fraction of the money Apple does and even what they do are geared towards their own needs. But more relevant is the fact that their donations are focused on running Linux as servers and there Linux is miles ahead of anything Apple provides, to the point that Apple has abandoned its server OS.
School-Cotton 1y ago
“Linux” isn’t a person or a company. Different people contribute to it with different goals. > 90%+ of work on Linux comes from corporate sponsorship And approximately 0% of these corporate contributors care about the “Linux desktop” experience. Unlike Apple their goal is not to build a consumer-targeted OS. Linux on the desktop is very, very niche, and even among the people who do use it, a lot of them will spend almost all their time in just a few windows (e.g. terminal, browser, emacs), not a rich array of desktop applications.
- amlib 1y ago
  If you haven't used linux desktop for a while, even a year ago, try again. Use a bleeding edge distro like the latest Ubuntu or Fedora ideally running Wayland and you will be surprised how smooth and feature-full it has become, with gobs of high quality apps available with no finicky compile instructions or crazy installation steps needed to follow. Whatever rough edges you may encounter will keep being sanded down at a speed I haven't witnessed since when linux was the hot new thing in the 90s. Linux desktop felt stale and abandoned trough-out the 2010s but nowadays its pretty marvelous how fast it's becoming a real alternative to windows and mac. I truly believe that if it had the proper developer adoption and first class hardware support from OEM vendors it would already be a true alternative.
  - Klonoar 1y ago
    I’m pretty sure I read your exact comment way back in 2006. ;P
sunshowers 1y ago
Most of the work on the Linux kernel is commercially funded. Plenty of other parts to a KDE/GNOME/systemd/GNU/Linux desktop. (I'm a pretty happy desktop Linux user, mostly because I don't think commercial OS vendors' incentives are properly aligned in the B2C space.)
4ndrewl 1y ago
> If they can't build their own towers correctly, they have no right to act like the main tower was built worse than their own. And yet OP did.

mixmastamyk 1y ago

Apple has money… like coming out of their ears.

hshdhdhj4444 1y ago

Corporate sponsors on Linux provide a fraction of the money Apple does and even what they do are geared towards their own needs. But more relevant is the fact that their donations are focused on running Linux as servers and there Linux is miles ahead of anything Apple provides, to the point that Apple has abandoned its server OS.

School-Cotton 1y ago

“Linux” isn’t a person or a company. Different people contribute to it with different goals. > 90%+ of work on Linux comes from corporate sponsorship And approximately 0% of these corporate contributors care about the “Linux desktop” experience. Unlike Apple their goal is not to build a consumer-targeted OS. Linux on the desktop is very, very niche, and even among the people who do use it, a lot of them will spend almost all their time in just a few windows (e.g. terminal, browser, emacs), not a rich array of desktop applications.

amlib 1y ago
If you haven't used linux desktop for a while, even a year ago, try again. Use a bleeding edge distro like the latest Ubuntu or Fedora ideally running Wayland and you will be surprised how smooth and feature-full it has become, with gobs of high quality apps available with no finicky compile instructions or crazy installation steps needed to follow. Whatever rough edges you may encounter will keep being sanded down at a speed I haven't witnessed since when linux was the hot new thing in the 90s. Linux desktop felt stale and abandoned trough-out the 2010s but nowadays its pretty marvelous how fast it's becoming a real alternative to windows and mac. I truly believe that if it had the proper developer adoption and first class hardware support from OEM vendors it would already be a true alternative.
- Klonoar 1y ago
  I’m pretty sure I read your exact comment way back in 2006. ;P

sunshowers 1y ago

Most of the work on the Linux kernel is commercially funded. Plenty of other parts to a KDE/GNOME/systemd/GNU/Linux desktop. (I'm a pretty happy desktop Linux user, mostly because I don't think commercial OS vendors' incentives are properly aligned in the B2C space.)

4ndrewl 1y ago

> If they can't build their own towers correctly, they have no right to act like the main tower was built worse than their own. And yet OP did.