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I've ranted about this before, but setting up or migrating semi-selfhosted personal services like that is a lot of hassle, even if you're used to cosplaying as
by rollcat 1y ago
I've ranted about this before, but setting up or migrating semi-selfhosted personal services like that is a lot of hassle, even if you're used to cosplaying as a sysadmin.
Migrating DNS providers is a pain - recently done it twice. Transfer itself is reasonable with most providers. Importing/exporting a BIND-formatted zone file is sometimes unheard of, as is setting custom TTL; you'll have to go through a stupid form. One provider tries to hold your hand so tightly it won't let you set CAA with iodef, only issue/issuewild.
Migrating email is a pain. Yes! You can just point your MX elsewhere, and that is brilliant. You still want to copy over all your email, and given IMAP has won, if you don't have a recent backup (who does back up their email?), losing your old account sucks.
Fixing up your email clients is also troublesome. You can't just CNAME smtp.yourdomain.com to smtp.example.com, because that's nuts, so changing providers from example.com to beispiel.de requires a couple more dances; provider docs also suck, and email clients usually fail a dozen times before you can find the right incantation. You could set up your own autodiscover, but that requires an HTTPS server.
Yes there are providers that sell a full package and do all the initial setup for you, but that's not the point of owning your domain.
Yeah, I sometimes do sysadmin stuff for fun. None of this is fun.
- chipsrafferty 1y agoIMO email should not be an archival service. Everyone should be ok with losing all of their saved emails at any point. If it's important, save that information elsewhere.
- pergadad 1y agoThe official migration guide for Migadu invites you to use thunderbird and basically move all emails and folders from one account to another. No blame to them, but it's stunning that that's the best solution we have for migrating email
- ryandrake 1y agoNone of these things are really that hard to do, and there are tons of tutorials on the Internet if you're not a sysadmin. I agree that these things are not "grandma can do it" easy, but they should be straightforward for anyone who has reasonably solid command line chops. Plus, they're all one-time tasks. Once you've moved over to your own domain and your own server/software, you're done--you don't have to do it over and over.
- rollcat 1y ago> I agree that these things are not "grandma can do it" easy [...] That's my entire point. Contrast this process with buying an app on your phone. Insert coin, done; vs insert coin, battle a dragon. > [...] they should be straightforward for anyone who has reasonably solid command line chops. That's my entire point. I've been familiar with the command line since before I could write with a pen, and I still dislike doing any of that stuff. > Once you've moved over to your own domain and your own server/software, you're done--you don't have to do it over and over. That's my entire point. You don't have to, until you do.
- sigmaisaletter 1y agoI do backup my email, only yearly, but I do.
- nobody9999 1y ago>I do backup my email, only yearly, but I do. I back up my email (some of it going back to 1996) twice a day. I lost several months worth of emails a few years back. That won't happen again.
- EbNar 1y agoActually, you can do the CNAME thing with mxroute. Dunno, for me going from Zoho to mxroute hasn't been so problematic...