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I never moved to containers and seeing the churn the community has went through with all of this complicated container tooling, I'm happy orchestrating small-sc
by mattbillenstein 1y ago
I never moved to containers and seeing the churn the community has went through with all of this complicated container tooling, I'm happy orchestrating small-scale systems with supervisord and saltstack-like chatops deployments - it's just stupid simple by comparison and provides parity between dev and prod environments that's nice.
- baggy_trough 1y agotry the built-in systemd containers - via nspawn. Underrated tool!
- candiddevmike 1y agoToo many gaps around image management. It seems like an unfinished feature that wasn't completely thought out IMO. Podman is what systemd-nspawns OCI interface should've become.
- MrDrMcCoy 1y agoThe incomplete resource controls compared with other units is also annoying. Probably the biggest reason for me that I haven't used nspawn much.
- baggy_trough 1y agoWhat's an example of that?
- cydmax 1y agoIt looks like supervisord had it last release in December 2022. GitHub issue for a new release are not answered: https://github.com/Supervisor/supervisor/issues/1635#issue-2198571175 https://github.com/Supervisor/supervisor/issues/1635#issue-2... The original author seems to have moved on to NixOS.
- mardifoufs 1y agoWhat churn? For 95% of users, the way to use containers hasn't changed in the past decade. It's just a combination of docker CLI, maybe some docker compose for local testing and then pushing that image somewhere.
- mattbillenstein 1y agoTrue perhaps from a certain perspective, but k8s and the other orchestration technologies, etc. Also dev workflows in containers seem broken and hard - I think it offers a poor experience generally.