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ChatGPT is free. That's the public benefit.
by wmf 2y ago
ChatGPT is free. That's the public benefit.
- nativeit 2y agoDefine “free”.
- fooker 2y agofree as in free beer
- celdon25 2y agoIt’s like a free beer, but it’s Bud Light, lukewarm, and your reaction to tasting the beer goes toward researching ways to make you appreciate the lukewarm Bud Light for its marginal value, rather than making that beer taste better or less unhealthy. They’ll try very hard to convince you that they have though. It parallels their approach to AI Alignment.
- windsignaling 2y agoI don't pay money for it?
- nicce 2y agoI will give you a free beer if I can listen all your personal conversations.
- sekai 2y agoThey don't collect data?
- wmf 2y agoIf you use it, that means you received more value than you gave up. It's called consumer surplus.
- patmcc 2y agoThat's effectively every business that isn't a complete rent-seeking monopoly. It's not a very good measure. edit: to be clear, it's not a bad thing - we should want companies that create consumer surplus. But that's the default state of companies in a healthy market.
- jaccola 2y agoIf I pay £200,000 for a car, I received more value than I gave up, otherwise I wouldn't have given the owner £200,000 for her car. No reasonable person would say the car was "free"...
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> If you use it, that means you received more value than you gave up. It's called consumer surplus This is true for literally any transaction. Actually, it's true for any rational action. If you're being tortured, and you decide it's not worth it to keep your secrets hidden any longer, you get more than you give up when you stop being tortured.
- klabb3 2y agoIt’s only true in theory and over a single transaction, not necessarily over time. The hack that VCs have exploited for decades now is subsidizing products and acquiring competition to eventually enshittify. In this case, when OpenAI dials up the inevitable enshittification, they’ll have gotten a ton of data from their users to use for their proprietary closed AI.
- buuuutwut 2y ago
- patmcc 2y agoGoogle offers a great many things for free. Should they get beneficial tax treatment for it?
- wmf 2y agoPBCs have no beneficial tax treatment and neither does OpenAI.
- moralestapia 2y agoSo, what's the point of a PBC? Not being snarky here, like what is the purported thesis behind them?
- nemomarx 2y agomarketing to certain types of philanthropic investors? I think
- insane_dreamer 2y agoMostly branding, like Google's "do no evil" Some founders truly believe in structuring the company for the benefit of the public, but Altman has already shown he's not one of them.
- patmcc 2y agoHuh. Then yah, what the heck? Why not just be a regular corp?
- jampekka 2y agoBranding, and perhaps a demand from the judges. In practice it doesn't mean anything if/when they stuff the board with people who want to run it as a normal LLC.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoThat's like saying AWS is free. ChatGPT has a limited use free tier just like most other SaaS products out there.