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> This tariff isn't an attack on Hollywood. This helps actors and staff in the Hollywood area. Does it, though? I mean, the Trump administration is only making

> This tariff isn't an attack on Hollywood. This helps actors and staff in the Hollywood area. Does it, though? I mean, the Trump administration is only making it more expensive for theaters to screen non-US movies. Are you going to even bother going to a cinema if the movie you wanted to see isn't made available? And how dominant are non-US productions in US cinemas? It sounds like more tarrif bullshit,where the only output is lose-lose.

mike_hearn 1y ago
The distinction here isn't US vs non-US movies, it's where they're produced. A lot of Hollywood output is produced outside the US now to escape the unions, to benefit from cheaper non-US workers and to benefit from tax breaks. These are American movies funded and written by Americans, but the bulk of the production staff aren't from there. From the first paragraph of the article: Donald Trump on Sunday announced on his Truth Social platform a 100% tariff on all movies “produced in Foreign Lands”, saying the US film industry was dying a “very fast death” due to the incentives that other countries were offering to draw American film-makers. That is correct. Other countries are gutting Hollywood because Hollywood has become a hard place to make things. To pick a random example, the TV show Silo by Apple TV is made in the UK, not America, and the lead actress is Swedish. It's set in the USA, based on a story by an American author and produced by Apple but it's not made there. This move is bad news for the UK and other countries that have built up a successful film industry but don't have the capital depth to fund big budget films, even with access to the US market. Now they lose access to US funding and can't easily export their films to the US either, assuming it goes through.
jaimebuelta 1y ago
Most top movies last year [1] were shot outside of the US. Excluding animation movies, of course. I understand that the idea is “medium/long term” to move production to Hollywood area, but the short term impact can be massive. [1] “Deadpool and Wolverine”, “Wicked” and “Beetlejuice Beetlejuice” in London, “Dune part 2” in Budapest and Italy, “Godzilla x Kong” in Australia. Only “Twisters” was filmed in the US.
- motorest 1y ago
  > Most top movies last year [1] were shot outside of the US. The movies you listed as examples are Hollywood productions (aka Hollywod movies, aka American movies).
  - ulfw 1y ago
    That's like saying an Apple iPhone is a US phone and hence shouldn't be tariffed. No, it's made in China. Not in the US. The movies aforementioned are not made in the US either.
    - motorest 1y ago
      > That's like saying an Apple iPhone is a US phone (...) It is a US phone. > No, it's made in China. It doesn't make it any less of a US phone. If you go to Newegg, order a bunch of PC parts from CPU to case, and put them together in your room, how much of the PC was made in your neighborhood? > The movies aforementioned are not made in the US either. Ninsense. Do you think that gophers and local caterers are the ones producing and profiting from a movie production?

mike_hearn 1y ago

The distinction here isn't US vs non-US movies, it's where they're produced. A lot of Hollywood output is produced outside the US now to escape the unions, to benefit from cheaper non-US workers and to benefit from tax breaks. These are American movies funded and written by Americans, but the bulk of the production staff aren't from there. From the first paragraph of the article: Donald Trump on Sunday announced on his Truth Social platform a 100% tariff on all movies “produced in Foreign Lands”, saying the US film industry was dying a “very fast death” due to the incentives that other countries were offering to draw American film-makers. That is correct. Other countries are gutting Hollywood because Hollywood has become a hard place to make things. To pick a random example, the TV show Silo by Apple TV is made in the UK, not America, and the lead actress is Swedish. It's set in the USA, based on a story by an American author and produced by Apple but it's not made there. This move is bad news for the UK and other countries that have built up a successful film industry but don't have the capital depth to fund big budget films, even with access to the US market. Now they lose access to US funding and can't easily export their films to the US either, assuming it goes through.

jaimebuelta 1y ago

Most top movies last year [1] were shot outside of the US. Excluding animation movies, of course. I understand that the idea is “medium/long term” to move production to Hollywood area, but the short term impact can be massive. [1] “Deadpool and Wolverine”, “Wicked” and “Beetlejuice Beetlejuice” in London, “Dune part 2” in Budapest and Italy, “Godzilla x Kong” in Australia. Only “Twisters” was filmed in the US.

motorest 1y ago
> Most top movies last year [1] were shot outside of the US. The movies you listed as examples are Hollywood productions (aka Hollywod movies, aka American movies).
- ulfw 1y ago
  That's like saying an Apple iPhone is a US phone and hence shouldn't be tariffed. No, it's made in China. Not in the US. The movies aforementioned are not made in the US either.
  - motorest 1y ago
    > That's like saying an Apple iPhone is a US phone (...) It is a US phone. > No, it's made in China. It doesn't make it any less of a US phone. If you go to Newegg, order a bunch of PC parts from CPU to case, and put them together in your room, how much of the PC was made in your neighborhood? > The movies aforementioned are not made in the US either. Ninsense. Do you think that gophers and local caterers are the ones producing and profiting from a movie production?