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I think thats exactly the point though. There is a perception that "left wing ideals" are represented in art and media and that this must end. This explains the

by anonu 1y ago

I think thats exactly the point though. There is a perception that "left wing ideals" are represented in art and media and that this must end. This explains the executive order to defund NPR and PBS last week.

jasonjayr 1y ago
But isn't this the "free market" at play? Media with so-called "leftist" themes tend to do well commercially than "rightist" themes, so Hollywood just follows the money?
- mort96 1y ago
  MAGA is not a free market fundamentalist movement. The old-school neoconservative Republicans are no longer in charge of the party.
  - liotier 1y ago
    Imagine ten years ago, someone predicting you would miss the neocons...
    - ringeryless 1y ago
      we actually had books by folks like Naomi Klein back in the 90s that indicated that the petroleum-based forces would subvert international cooperation for the sake of short-term profits. we were informed of the current navelgazing nationalist trend worldwide gaining popularity. it's completely stupid and shortsighted to birth this monster, of course. we need MORE international cooperation not less to solve the vast environmental and social problems the world faces. think about why people migrate and war is high on the list, and not addressing the root causes of human migration but merely each nation closing its doors to the world= bad dumb and wrong. the people are to blame, of course. in one of the wealthiest nations on earth it's not hardship or suffering that drove the common man to vote for Trump, it's schadenfreude for strawmen they were programmed to hate. Jodorowski's famous art film "holy mountain" shows our current trajectory since 40 plus years and depicts the brainwashing that allows one to dehumanize other human beings. i am not sure if trump or vance is the antichrist, but they certainly head a religion dedicated to eradicating the values Jesus taught.
- redeux 1y ago
  The MAGA movement doesn’t believe in the idea of a free market. Tariffs are a prime example of that. What they want is control and subservience.
- faku812 1y ago
  Snow White is evidence the money is not what they follow.
  - WesolyKubeczek 1y ago
    I would say it’s exactly what a risk-averse money-following committee would do. Regurgitate remakes of previously successful things to milk the cow until it’s powder dry. Whether this is a successful strategy is debatable.
  - ben_w 1y ago
    One film by isolation doesn't say much either way, as any given film is high-variance — look at the industry as a whole, and not just box office but total revenue. I don't have stats for that either, so these things might well still support your claim, but that's what you have to look at.
- hdivider 1y ago
  Not sure why you're being downvoted because your points are accurate. Ultra nationalist propaganda wouldn't sell well internationally compared to e.g. Star Wars. And the current administration does at least purport to follow free market principles. It's just all principles can go out the window for them because <insert word salad>, for whatever advances their own power.
- Spooky23 1y ago
  MAGA are fascist. The heavy base of voter support is from religious zealots.
- watwut 1y ago
  Yes and no, most people will happily watch movies with gays in them and those without gays. For decades gays were not allowed and their presence caused blowbacks. It was called free market, despite there being literal rules preventing their presence. Likewise, non whites or women in leading roles - they were not in them, because Hollywood was conservative business in this sense. It took a lot of advocacy for the change to happen. Right wing hates them, most people just watch those movies and are not weirded out anymore about women having lead action role or whatever. And right wing hopes to revert it back.
johannes1234321 1y ago
Right. Just like other "strong" regimes do and did: Entertainment is a key vehicle for injecting values into society and forming it. Way more subtle than schools and public speeches can do. Important to control it, if you want to keep your power long term.

by anonu 1y ago

jasonjayr 1y ago

But isn't this the "free market" at play? Media with so-called "leftist" themes tend to do well commercially than "rightist" themes, so Hollywood just follows the money?

mort96 1y ago
MAGA is not a free market fundamentalist movement. The old-school neoconservative Republicans are no longer in charge of the party.
- liotier 1y ago
  Imagine ten years ago, someone predicting you would miss the neocons...
  - ringeryless 1y ago
    we actually had books by folks like Naomi Klein back in the 90s that indicated that the petroleum-based forces would subvert international cooperation for the sake of short-term profits. we were informed of the current navelgazing nationalist trend worldwide gaining popularity. it's completely stupid and shortsighted to birth this monster, of course. we need MORE international cooperation not less to solve the vast environmental and social problems the world faces. think about why people migrate and war is high on the list, and not addressing the root causes of human migration but merely each nation closing its doors to the world= bad dumb and wrong. the people are to blame, of course. in one of the wealthiest nations on earth it's not hardship or suffering that drove the common man to vote for Trump, it's schadenfreude for strawmen they were programmed to hate. Jodorowski's famous art film "holy mountain" shows our current trajectory since 40 plus years and depicts the brainwashing that allows one to dehumanize other human beings. i am not sure if trump or vance is the antichrist, but they certainly head a religion dedicated to eradicating the values Jesus taught.
redeux 1y ago
The MAGA movement doesn’t believe in the idea of a free market. Tariffs are a prime example of that. What they want is control and subservience.
faku812 1y ago
Snow White is evidence the money is not what they follow.
- WesolyKubeczek 1y ago
  I would say it’s exactly what a risk-averse money-following committee would do. Regurgitate remakes of previously successful things to milk the cow until it’s powder dry. Whether this is a successful strategy is debatable.
- ben_w 1y ago
  One film by isolation doesn't say much either way, as any given film is high-variance — look at the industry as a whole, and not just box office but total revenue. I don't have stats for that either, so these things might well still support your claim, but that's what you have to look at.
hdivider 1y ago
Not sure why you're being downvoted because your points are accurate. Ultra nationalist propaganda wouldn't sell well internationally compared to e.g. Star Wars. And the current administration does at least purport to follow free market principles. It's just all principles can go out the window for them because <insert word salad>, for whatever advances their own power.
Spooky23 1y ago
MAGA are fascist. The heavy base of voter support is from religious zealots.
watwut 1y ago
Yes and no, most people will happily watch movies with gays in them and those without gays. For decades gays were not allowed and their presence caused blowbacks. It was called free market, despite there being literal rules preventing their presence. Likewise, non whites or women in leading roles - they were not in them, because Hollywood was conservative business in this sense. It took a lot of advocacy for the change to happen. Right wing hates them, most people just watch those movies and are not weirded out anymore about women having lead action role or whatever. And right wing hopes to revert it back.

johannes1234321 1y ago

Right. Just like other "strong" regimes do and did: Entertainment is a key vehicle for injecting values into society and forming it. Way more subtle than schools and public speeches can do. Important to control it, if you want to keep your power long term.