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I've noticed the "live in the moment" crowd is funnily enough the one that least lives in the moment. They are the first to notice how many people around them a

by vasco 1y ago

I've noticed the "live in the moment" crowd is funnily enough the one that least lives in the moment. They are the first to notice how many people around them are taking pictures or posing or looking "ridiculous", worrying how themselves would look if they did the same, sometimes wanting deep down to do the same but held back by their own perceived judgement of others potentially turning on them. I had a friend that spend a concert mad that someone was filming with an iPad on his peripheral vision. Kept talking about it and was the main topic when reviewing the concert to other friends. Just live your life, you want to take pictures do, you don't don't, you want to post your whole life in Instagram do. Life is whatever you want it to be.

1659447091 1y ago
> They are the first to notice how many people around them are taking pictures True. I notice this a lot in museums, at historical sites, at the summit on mountain hikes, and indoor concerts. And no, I don't want to enjoy a concert through the iPads of the people in front of me and holding them up with no regard to the people behind them either > worrying how themselves would look if they did the same, sometimes wanting deep down to do the same but held back by their own perceived judgement of others potentially turning on them. ...yea, lost me there. Going places because of an interest in the museums content or a locations outdoor experience and having other people around these same points of interest but facing you instead of the {thing} is highly noticeable, and from my lens, strange(as in difficult for me to relate) that the {thing}'s appeal appears to be only as a backdrop to the selfies. The ones that walk up, take the many selfies and move on to the next POI/selfie-spot. I am sure many people enjoy {thing} and then take a quick single selfie and move on to enjoy next {thing}, but I never make note because they didn't spend the entire moment standing in front of {thing} facing others and taking a roll of films worth of slightly different snapshots of themselves. Have you considered that maybe your "live in the moment" crowd, is living in the moment by noticing others around them and making that observation is not in itself a judgment of anything. Unlike the iPad concert broadcasting crowd or the selfie-enthusiast/collector that runs up to {thing} and leans against the information plaques while having no awareness of the people standing near by reading it.
- vasco 1y ago
  You reminded me of the meme with a gnarly and violent and gory dark ages painting with the caption: No smartphone in sight, just people living in the moment. If your moment is scoffing at others and being all fussed up about how others aren't in the moment... it's a strange way of going around is my point. Live and let live.
  - righthand 1y ago
    Are the people taking excessive photos letting others live (in the moment)?
    - vasco 1y ago
      Too much of anything is a bad thing, that's besides the point as that argument can be made about anything.
      - righthand 1y ago
        Which is the exactly the point. Both photo-takers and non-photo-takers need to live and let live. Just because people have agency doesn’t mean it’s good because technology.
  - 1659447091 1y ago
    > If your moment is scoffing at others You may have misread what I wrote. Noticing others behaviour and making an observation about it as being curious (maybe if I had used that word instead of strange, it would have helped..?) Not sure who is scoffing? and who is being all fussed up? If that is how you read my post, maybe try again after settling whatever it is about this topic(or maybe completely outside of it?) that appears to be activating and creating these projections of judgement in the post
    - vasco 1y ago
      I didn't mean you, I meant people such as my friend from my original comment.
JKCalhoun 1y ago
I don’t know, noticing others taking photos kind of also is the moment. ;-)
Mbwagava 1y ago
How is this comment any better than the attitude its commenting on?Just live your life, you want to take pictures do, you don't don't, you want to post your whole life in Instagram do. Life is whatever you want it to be. > They are the first to notice how many people around them are taking pictures or posing or looking "ridiculous", worrying how themselves would look if they did the same, sometimes wanting deep down to do the same but held back by their own perceived judgement of others potentially turning on them. This is incredibly arrogant & entirely projection.

by vasco 1y ago

1659447091 1y ago

> They are the first to notice how many people around them are taking pictures True. I notice this a lot in museums, at historical sites, at the summit on mountain hikes, and indoor concerts. And no, I don't want to enjoy a concert through the iPads of the people in front of me and holding them up with no regard to the people behind them either > worrying how themselves would look if they did the same, sometimes wanting deep down to do the same but held back by their own perceived judgement of others potentially turning on them. ...yea, lost me there. Going places because of an interest in the museums content or a locations outdoor experience and having other people around these same points of interest but facing you instead of the {thing} is highly noticeable, and from my lens, strange(as in difficult for me to relate) that the {thing}'s appeal appears to be only as a backdrop to the selfies. The ones that walk up, take the many selfies and move on to the next POI/selfie-spot. I am sure many people enjoy {thing} and then take a quick single selfie and move on to enjoy next {thing}, but I never make note because they didn't spend the entire moment standing in front of {thing} facing others and taking a roll of films worth of slightly different snapshots of themselves. Have you considered that maybe your "live in the moment" crowd, is living in the moment by noticing others around them and making that observation is not in itself a judgment of anything. Unlike the iPad concert broadcasting crowd or the selfie-enthusiast/collector that runs up to {thing} and leans against the information plaques while having no awareness of the people standing near by reading it.

vasco 1y ago
You reminded me of the meme with a gnarly and violent and gory dark ages painting with the caption: No smartphone in sight, just people living in the moment. If your moment is scoffing at others and being all fussed up about how others aren't in the moment... it's a strange way of going around is my point. Live and let live.
- righthand 1y ago
  Are the people taking excessive photos letting others live (in the moment)?
  - vasco 1y ago
    Too much of anything is a bad thing, that's besides the point as that argument can be made about anything.
    - righthand 1y ago
      Which is the exactly the point. Both photo-takers and non-photo-takers need to live and let live. Just because people have agency doesn’t mean it’s good because technology.
- 1659447091 1y ago
  > If your moment is scoffing at others You may have misread what I wrote. Noticing others behaviour and making an observation about it as being curious (maybe if I had used that word instead of strange, it would have helped..?) Not sure who is scoffing? and who is being all fussed up? If that is how you read my post, maybe try again after settling whatever it is about this topic(or maybe completely outside of it?) that appears to be activating and creating these projections of judgement in the post
  - vasco 1y ago
    I didn't mean you, I meant people such as my friend from my original comment.

JKCalhoun 1y ago

I don’t know, noticing others taking photos kind of also is the moment. ;-)

Mbwagava 1y ago

How is this comment any better than the attitude its commenting on?Just live your life, you want to take pictures do, you don't don't, you want to post your whole life in Instagram do. Life is whatever you want it to be. > They are the first to notice how many people around them are taking pictures or posing or looking "ridiculous", worrying how themselves would look if they did the same, sometimes wanting deep down to do the same but held back by their own perceived judgement of others potentially turning on them. This is incredibly arrogant & entirely projection.