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I'm guessing it'll be exactly the same in the states as it is in Australia. On the speeding fine you receive in the mail, you indicate that you were not drivin

I'm guessing it'll be exactly the same in the states as it is in Australia. On the speeding fine you receive in the mail, you indicate that you were not driving at the time and nominate who was. This is a legal declaration. Now you'd think it's a slam-dunk to just lie and get out of fines this way, however a huge number of people including a Supreme Court judge have been caught lying, and in the case of the judge jailed for then .[1] 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Einfeld http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Einfeld

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brc 14y ago
It is in Australia. The regular speed cameras (radar+photo) are high res and clearly show the driver - very difficult to argue you weren't driving the car.
- michaelcampbell 14y ago
  My question is a bit rhetorical, and ridiculous, but I'll ask it anyway - is there any corresponding law in Australia that prohibits one from driving disguised or dressed in such a way that it is impossible to determine who is actually driving?
  - brc 14y ago
    I don't think there would be, because you still have to sign a legal document to say it was you, or nominate the person it was. So even if you had a gorilla suit on, you'd still have to sign it to say who was in the gorilla suit. So I don't think the photo is used as a legal argument - they still have them on at night - but merely to make it crystal clear to the owner of the vehicle who was driving it at the time. Interestingly, there is a loophole whereby a vehicle registered to a company instead of an individual can foregoe the identification of the driver, but they must pay a much higher fine. This is to assist with companies that may own a fleet of vehicles and it's impossible to determine who was driving what car when. It's a loophole people with cash + their own business use so their own licences don't get affected. Not many know about it.

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brc 14y ago

It is in Australia. The regular speed cameras (radar+photo) are high res and clearly show the driver - very difficult to argue you weren't driving the car.

michaelcampbell 14y ago
My question is a bit rhetorical, and ridiculous, but I'll ask it anyway - is there any corresponding law in Australia that prohibits one from driving disguised or dressed in such a way that it is impossible to determine who is actually driving?
- brc 14y ago
  I don't think there would be, because you still have to sign a legal document to say it was you, or nominate the person it was. So even if you had a gorilla suit on, you'd still have to sign it to say who was in the gorilla suit. So I don't think the photo is used as a legal argument - they still have them on at night - but merely to make it crystal clear to the owner of the vehicle who was driving it at the time. Interestingly, there is a loophole whereby a vehicle registered to a company instead of an individual can foregoe the identification of the driver, but they must pay a much higher fine. This is to assist with companies that may own a fleet of vehicles and it's impossible to determine who was driving what car when. It's a loophole people with cash + their own business use so their own licences don't get affected. Not many know about it.