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The correct answer is no one outside US Government IT knows for sure what is or isn't approved per their own rules. Every article (and comments therein) are ju

The correct answer is no one outside US Government IT knows for sure what is or isn't approved per their own rules. Every article (and comments therein) are just speculation and people trying to confirm their own biases, desperately looking for something to blame someone for, to produce more rage-bait and thus feed more ad clicks. Every single article is written with the presumption that there are no actual IT people in the White House, that someone wheeled in a Starlink dish on a dessert cart in the yard which is somehow running the entire government. It's silly and ridiculous.

ceejayoz 1y ago
> It's silly and ridiculous. As is putting someone with a brain parasite and anti-vax beliefs as the head of HHS, but here we are. “Silly and ridiculous” does not mean “implausible” with this administration. It’s the standard.
gopher_space 1y ago
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- mmooss 1y ago
  Palantir has a lot of IT employees, as does Oracle and Musk's companies, which actively support Trump.
  - runlevel1 1y ago
    Are you trying to prove their point?
- gavin-1 1y ago
  What does conservative brain drain mean?
  - michaelt 1y ago
    A few decades ago, the Republican party had one foot in the anti-intellectual camp, but only one. They were the party of young-earth creationists, religious pro-lifers, climate-deniers and gun-lovers - but also of educated fiscally conservative folks. The party would welcome economics professors and leaders of medium-sized businesses, promising no radical changes, no big increases in spending or regulation, and a generally pro-market/pro-business stance. The genius of Trump was in realising the educated fiscally conservative folk were driving 95% of the republican policy agenda but only delivering 10% of the votes. The average Republican voter loves the idea of disbanding the IRS and replacing all taxes with tariffs on imports. Sure, you lose the educated 10% who think that policy is economic suicide - but you can more than make up for it with increased turn-out from the other 90% who are really fired up by the prospect of eliminating all taxes. And it works - jumping into the anti-intellectual camp with both feet has delivered the house, the senate, the presidency (electoral college and popular vote), and the supreme court. The conservative movement has a brain-drain because they've realised they don't want the votes of smart, educated people.
    - not_really 1y ago
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      - knowaveragejoe 1y ago
        It's probably closer to the truth than not.
    - Tabular-Iceberg 1y ago
      What's anti-intellectual about religious pro-lifers?
      - gopher_space 1y ago
        Their take on scripture is deliberately anachronistic. We didn’t have the medicine or sanitation 2000 years ago to place their kind of value on a fetus.
protocolture 1y ago
>that someone wheeled in a Starlink dish on a dessert cart in the yard That situation was ridiculous, in that to score the marketing points, but fighting with the whitehouse IT the starlink is installed at a remote location with much the same point of failure as their fibre services.
skissane 1y ago
> The correct answer is no one outside US Government IT knows for sure what is or isn't approved per their own rules Veterans Affairs actually publishes a list of approved software as part of their Technical Reference Model: https://www.oit.va.gov/services/trm/ https://www.oit.va.gov/services/trm/ (don’t know how complete it is) But I’m not aware of other agencies doing this. I suppose that VA, given the nature of what they do, likely feels that there is less risk in publicising this information There’s also the FedRAMP program for centralized review of cloud services - fedramp.gov - I haven’t looked to see if Telemessage is listed as approved but I see some references to FedRAMP and Telemessage online suggesting that it may be Another source of info is SAM.gov - https://sam.gov/opp/ab5e8a486e074d73bfe09b383ba819ab/view https://sam.gov/opp/ab5e8a486e074d73bfe09b383ba819ab/view (that’s for NIH) - if there is an agency paying for it, you can assume they’ve approved it for use (or are in the process of doing so) even if they haven’t otherwise publicly said they are. But, not all contracts are public, so just because you can’t find it on SAM.gov doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

ceejayoz 1y ago

> It's silly and ridiculous. As is putting someone with a brain parasite and anti-vax beliefs as the head of HHS, but here we are. “Silly and ridiculous” does not mean “implausible” with this administration. It’s the standard.

gopher_space 1y ago

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mmooss 1y ago
Palantir has a lot of IT employees, as does Oracle and Musk's companies, which actively support Trump.
- runlevel1 1y ago
  Are you trying to prove their point?
gavin-1 1y ago
What does conservative brain drain mean?
- michaelt 1y ago
  A few decades ago, the Republican party had one foot in the anti-intellectual camp, but only one. They were the party of young-earth creationists, religious pro-lifers, climate-deniers and gun-lovers - but also of educated fiscally conservative folks. The party would welcome economics professors and leaders of medium-sized businesses, promising no radical changes, no big increases in spending or regulation, and a generally pro-market/pro-business stance. The genius of Trump was in realising the educated fiscally conservative folk were driving 95% of the republican policy agenda but only delivering 10% of the votes. The average Republican voter loves the idea of disbanding the IRS and replacing all taxes with tariffs on imports. Sure, you lose the educated 10% who think that policy is economic suicide - but you can more than make up for it with increased turn-out from the other 90% who are really fired up by the prospect of eliminating all taxes. And it works - jumping into the anti-intellectual camp with both feet has delivered the house, the senate, the presidency (electoral college and popular vote), and the supreme court. The conservative movement has a brain-drain because they've realised they don't want the votes of smart, educated people.
  - not_really 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - knowaveragejoe 1y ago
      It's probably closer to the truth than not.
  - Tabular-Iceberg 1y ago
    What's anti-intellectual about religious pro-lifers?
    - gopher_space 1y ago
      Their take on scripture is deliberately anachronistic. We didn’t have the medicine or sanitation 2000 years ago to place their kind of value on a fetus.

protocolture 1y ago

>that someone wheeled in a Starlink dish on a dessert cart in the yard That situation was ridiculous, in that to score the marketing points, but fighting with the whitehouse IT the starlink is installed at a remote location with much the same point of failure as their fibre services.

skissane 1y ago

> The correct answer is no one outside US Government IT knows for sure what is or isn't approved per their own rules Veterans Affairs actually publishes a list of approved software as part of their Technical Reference Model: https://www.oit.va.gov/services/trm/ https://www.oit.va.gov/services/trm/ (don’t know how complete it is) But I’m not aware of other agencies doing this. I suppose that VA, given the nature of what they do, likely feels that there is less risk in publicising this information There’s also the FedRAMP program for centralized review of cloud services - fedramp.gov - I haven’t looked to see if Telemessage is listed as approved but I see some references to FedRAMP and Telemessage online suggesting that it may be Another source of info is SAM.gov - https://sam.gov/opp/ab5e8a486e074d73bfe09b383ba819ab/view https://sam.gov/opp/ab5e8a486e074d73bfe09b383ba819ab/view (that’s for NIH) - if there is an agency paying for it, you can assume they’ve approved it for use (or are in the process of doing so) even if they haven’t otherwise publicly said they are. But, not all contracts are public, so just because you can’t find it on SAM.gov doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist