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> Melodies will be in a key, using a set of notes. That’s kinda unavoidable. Schoenberg has entered the chat.
by sunrunner 1y ago
> Melodies will be in a key, using a set of notes. That’s kinda unavoidable.
Schoenberg has entered the chat.
- andybak 1y agoArguably we tend to attempt to hear atonal music in a key (or temporal sequence of keys) despite it's attempt to avoid that. I suspect something similar about bitonality. We hear one of the keys and then try and interpret the other notes in relation to that. (warning. I am neither a music theorist or an expert in the psychology of music perception. But this is HN so yolo...)
- sunrunner 1y ago> we tend to attempt to hear atonal music in a key Is it the case that much of this is influenced by individuals having grown up listening in an environment with music already structured around a central key and modulation around that? With the same idea also applying to an understanding (or feeling) of rhythm?
- Biganon 1y agoAtonal music / serialism is insufferable pretentious bs that no one has ever listened to with pleasure, ever. It's a purely mathematical study, orthogonal to art.
- sunrunner 1y agoI don't disagree regarding "listened to with pleasure" and I only remember actively listening to atonal music as part of a required syllabus. I do think it's perhaps a useful lens to use to look at 'traditional' tonal music through however, even if just to re-affirm that _some_ kind of order and structure is an important part in making something palatable to the ears (or the brain).
- epcoa 1y agoI will continue to abstain from eating dog shit to convince myself that a ribeye tastes good.