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Sorry for your situation, or I suppose, glad to hear it's better. My understanding as a layperson is that antibiotics can be a nightmare for the gut: I don't th

by jchw 1y ago

Sorry for your situation, or I suppose, glad to hear it's better. My understanding as a layperson is that antibiotics can be a nightmare for the gut: I don't think it's particularly likely, but you are a lot more likely to get C. diff while taking antibiotics, and I'm sure that's not the only way it can make things worse, alongside the other caveats of antibiotics (e.g. people misusing them in ways that threatens their effectiveness.) So, I can understand why doctors are not always eager to deploy antibiotics when they're not convinced they will help. I've personally had quite some experiences navigating health issues, health anxiety, the medical system, etc. Nothing terribly interesting, but, still. I'm actually in middle of scheduling tests to see if I might, in fact, have an autoimmune condition. If they do find evidence of that, then it will have taken me around 6 years to figure it out from my very first symptoms. Thanks to modern medical science, I have little reason to sweat over it, though. (Of course, I'm still hoping for a negative, but at least in the case of a positive I can have the relief of knowing what the hell was wrong with me all this time.)

soulofmischief 1y ago
Finding out I had gout was a 10 year process. Apparently "full test panels" don't include uric acid tests. And whenever symptoms are aggravated, it's much harder to test for it anyway as the crystals are lodged in your bones and not in your blood stream and urine. Now I have to go through the entire process again to rule out everything else before getting a fibromyalgia diagnosis. Anyway antibiotics have unrelatedly literally saved my life on several occasions now and I am glad that in a few emergencies I was able to access them on the street without needing to navigate the healthcare system. Antibiotics are too tightly controlled for humans and not enough for animals. That said, I have had to take them enough that I've definitely experienced negative gut effects a couple of times. Now I reach for probiotics after a regimen.
genewitch 1y ago
I'm allergic to all cillins and had a spate of issues that required antibiotics 15 years ago, 3 treatments in 17 months. I'll have to take probiotics the rest of my life. Because I'm not doing a fecal transplant, thanks. Those three times of antibiotics completely wrecked my intestines.
- meindnoch 1y ago
  >Because I'm not doing a fecal transplant, thanks. Why?
  - BizarroLand 1y ago
    My guess is they decided it was "gross" and so they'd rather suffer. This way they get the benefit of complaining about their suffering without criticism because it's a social faux pas to tell a person to undergo a medical procedure just as much as it's frowned upon to mock someone for suffering from a medical illness, even though the fix for their medical condition is getting an enema and sticking a couple of pills up their hee-hoo.
    - genewitch 1y ago
      it's put in a tube down your throat, at least it was back when i was looking at options. Also, generally, you need a fecal transplant from someone in your household, but none of us have the same diets so i don't see how that would work.
      - BizarroLand 1y ago
        Pretty sure they offer it in suppository or even a pill format now. You just may have to jump through some hoops to find someone who works with them. https://openbiome.org/feature/fecal-transplant-pills-large-scale-production-begins-following-successful-dosing-study/ https://openbiome.org/feature/fecal-transplant-pills-large-s...
- FitCodIa 1y ago
  Previously on Hacker News (I had bookmarked it): "Antibiotics damage the colonic mucus barrier in a microbiota-independent manner" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41516419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41516419

by jchw 1y ago

soulofmischief 1y ago

Finding out I had gout was a 10 year process. Apparently "full test panels" don't include uric acid tests. And whenever symptoms are aggravated, it's much harder to test for it anyway as the crystals are lodged in your bones and not in your blood stream and urine. Now I have to go through the entire process again to rule out everything else before getting a fibromyalgia diagnosis. Anyway antibiotics have unrelatedly literally saved my life on several occasions now and I am glad that in a few emergencies I was able to access them on the street without needing to navigate the healthcare system. Antibiotics are too tightly controlled for humans and not enough for animals. That said, I have had to take them enough that I've definitely experienced negative gut effects a couple of times. Now I reach for probiotics after a regimen.

genewitch 1y ago

I'm allergic to all cillins and had a spate of issues that required antibiotics 15 years ago, 3 treatments in 17 months. I'll have to take probiotics the rest of my life. Because I'm not doing a fecal transplant, thanks. Those three times of antibiotics completely wrecked my intestines.

meindnoch 1y ago
>Because I'm not doing a fecal transplant, thanks. Why?
- BizarroLand 1y ago
  My guess is they decided it was "gross" and so they'd rather suffer. This way they get the benefit of complaining about their suffering without criticism because it's a social faux pas to tell a person to undergo a medical procedure just as much as it's frowned upon to mock someone for suffering from a medical illness, even though the fix for their medical condition is getting an enema and sticking a couple of pills up their hee-hoo.
  - genewitch 1y ago
    it's put in a tube down your throat, at least it was back when i was looking at options. Also, generally, you need a fecal transplant from someone in your household, but none of us have the same diets so i don't see how that would work.
    - BizarroLand 1y ago
      Pretty sure they offer it in suppository or even a pill format now. You just may have to jump through some hoops to find someone who works with them. https://openbiome.org/feature/fecal-transplant-pills-large-scale-production-begins-following-successful-dosing-study/ https://openbiome.org/feature/fecal-transplant-pills-large-s...
FitCodIa 1y ago
Previously on Hacker News (I had bookmarked it): "Antibiotics damage the colonic mucus barrier in a microbiota-independent manner" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41516419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41516419