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I'm still waiting for a bootloader that will show up right from the beginning on my external monitor like my desktop + CRT monitor could do 20 years ago. system

I'm still waiting for a bootloader that will show up right from the beginning on my external monitor like my desktop + CRT monitor could do 20 years ago. systemd-boot (included with Pop!_OS) doesn't do that - so I have to actually take out my (Thinkpad X1 extreme) laptop from its stand and open it up to be able to switch between boot options; would be good to know people's experience with Grub on this front.

xnickb 1y ago
It's definitely a "you" problem. It works for me over a monitor connected via a docking station. I have tries pop os a while ago but it definitely worked.
- noisy_boy 1y ago
  My setup is as Linux friendly/vanilla as it comes; my laptop and dock are both Thinkpad and the monitor is Dell. Nothing exotic. It didn't even work when my monitor was directly connected via USB-C or HDMI so I guess I'm out of ideas about how it is a "me" problem.
  - boomboomsubban 1y ago
    If you go into your UEFI, does your external monitor work? As Linux drivers wouldn't be in play when GRUB is running.
PhilipRoman 1y ago
I suspect it may depend on the monitor, not the bootloader. Some of them have a longer delay when turning on than others. My 4k connected over displayport has no problem, but my old VGA/DVI monitor that I use for homelab recovery cannot turn on fast enough.
micw 1y ago
Check your bios for primary display. If you manage to have the bios screen on the external display, it's very likely that the following bootloader will also use it. Works well on my ThinkPad+Dock.
fuzzfactor 1y ago
Check the Thinkpad firmware settings to make sure the external monitor and/or dock GPU is the primary display which is effective during boot. On some PC's though you will then see nothing during boot on the laptop's own screen, sometimes even when the laptop is standalone. If Initial Graphics Device is set for "Auto" instead of a specific device, that may be OK but also may not be any different than you have now. The external monitor may also have multiple inputs to choose from, like VGA, DVI, HDMI, which also might be set to "Auto" scan for which one is active, and that can sometimes take more time to succeed than it takes to boot. If so, using the Input Option settings on the external monitor you may be able to specify your preferred input connection exclusively, or as default, and then be able to see something during the time that it's blank now.

xnickb 1y ago

It's definitely a "you" problem. It works for me over a monitor connected via a docking station. I have tries pop os a while ago but it definitely worked.

noisy_boy 1y ago
My setup is as Linux friendly/vanilla as it comes; my laptop and dock are both Thinkpad and the monitor is Dell. Nothing exotic. It didn't even work when my monitor was directly connected via USB-C or HDMI so I guess I'm out of ideas about how it is a "me" problem.
- boomboomsubban 1y ago
  If you go into your UEFI, does your external monitor work? As Linux drivers wouldn't be in play when GRUB is running.

PhilipRoman 1y ago

I suspect it may depend on the monitor, not the bootloader. Some of them have a longer delay when turning on than others. My 4k connected over displayport has no problem, but my old VGA/DVI monitor that I use for homelab recovery cannot turn on fast enough.

micw 1y ago

Check your bios for primary display. If you manage to have the bios screen on the external display, it's very likely that the following bootloader will also use it. Works well on my ThinkPad+Dock.

fuzzfactor 1y ago

Check the Thinkpad firmware settings to make sure the external monitor and/or dock GPU is the primary display which is effective during boot. On some PC's though you will then see nothing during boot on the laptop's own screen, sometimes even when the laptop is standalone. If Initial Graphics Device is set for "Auto" instead of a specific device, that may be OK but also may not be any different than you have now. The external monitor may also have multiple inputs to choose from, like VGA, DVI, HDMI, which also might be set to "Auto" scan for which one is active, and that can sometimes take more time to succeed than it takes to boot. If so, using the Input Option settings on the external monitor you may be able to specify your preferred input connection exclusively, or as default, and then be able to see something during the time that it's blank now.