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If only we had the collective right of recall, like the Haudenosaunee government that the US is in part based on, rather than having to wait years. Edit: "if o
by meristohm 1y ago
If only we had the collective right of recall, like the Haudenosaunee government that the US is in part based on, rather than having to wait years.
Edit: "if only", ha. If only it were that simple.
- billy99k 1y agois collective recall the new buzz word for anti-democracy?
- toomuchtodo 1y agoNothing wrong with being anti democracy. Peter Thiel said "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible,” and I find it hard to disagree with him at this point. The average American is at a 7th-8th grade reading level, for example. Not much pride in being dragged by that quality of electorate. https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/14/politics/the-biggest-predictor-of-how-someone-will-vote https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/14/politics/the-biggest-predicto...
- squigz 1y agoOne has to wonder whether the billionaire might have other motives for being anti-democracy than a fervent belief in 'freedom'
- toomuchtodo 1y agoOh, no, of course. We can both agree democracy is a failure for different reasons.
- squigz 1y agoWhy do you think democracy is a failure? And what systems do you think should replace it?
- toomuchtodo 1y agoRecent examples: https://19thnews.org/2025/05/missouri-abortion-rights-laws-protections/ https://19thnews.org/2025/05/missouri-abortion-rights-laws-p... https://moritzlaw.osu.edu/unchecked-power-ohio-general-assembly-can-legislators-override-voters-will-marijuana-reform https://moritzlaw.osu.edu/unchecked-power-ohio-general-assem... https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article305391111.html https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/a...
- squigz 1y agoI don't see how that demonstrates that democracy is a failure. Maybe it demonstrates that democracy in America is a failure, but that's a stretch too IMO. Anyway, what systems do you think would be better? Specifically curious how they'd be immune to the issues outlined in those links.
- hn_acker 1y agoHow is collective recall anti-democracy?