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While these are cool, I honestly wish GRUB was silent unless you’re holding a key during boot. The 5 seconds it takes to go away and just boot the OS by default

While these are cool, I honestly wish GRUB was silent unless you’re holding a key during boot. The 5 seconds it takes to go away and just boot the OS by default is really unnecessary.

treyd 1y ago
I'm pretty sure there is an option for this, holding shift makes it show the menu.
arp242 1y ago
What if you don't remember the key you need to press?
- necovek 1y ago
  You RTFM (which can be a quick search or LLM chat away on another device like your phone).
kej 1y ago
I think you can get that by setting `GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden` and `GRUB_TIMEOUT=0`. Then you can hold `Shift` to see the GRUB menu, otherwise it will boot the default option immediately.
- dustbunny 1y ago
  Good tip. I've always felt like I'd like to be able to boot directly into the Second Option via a key, etc. like Shift + 2 etc
- homebrewer 1y ago
  Make sure this works on your system before you really need it, as some keyboard/USB-controller combinations take a few seconds to wake up from whatever slumber they're in and start working. I ran into this several times.
  - NikkiA 1y ago
    That's likely something related to USB legacy support being on or off. A lot of modern BIOS/EFI also allow a hybrid setting that enables legacy support until the OS takes over, which can sometimes be better too.
voidfunc 1y ago
Why would you actually want this? Such a weird desire to hide this kind of stuff because it's so inconsequential in my mind.
- Fnoord 1y ago
  Because sane OSes have sane defaults, and this is one of them. Hide information by default, unless called for. Want verbose boot log? Ask for it. Want boot menu? Ask for it. Need Bluetooth enabled at boot? Aak for it. Don't overburden the user with irrelevant info. When my 7 y.o. daughter fires up the Steam Decj, she doesn't need to see the boot menu.
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  - panny 1y ago
    >she doesn't need to see My parents let me decide what I needed to see and learn how to customize things for myself. That seems like a sane default to me.
    - Fnoord 1y ago
      No, they don't; they let you decide some things which are relevant. People in the know decide defaults. This is how it works everywhere. Else you'd learn to bicycle with your own traffic rules. You'd end under a bus. Addendum: You could say you want a sandbox, and that such is part of the sandbox to play with. Then you need some kind of way to clean up, like you can clean up the toys your kids play with (or ensure they clean up their own mess), or ensure their sandbox environment is safe (such as no fire hazards in your house). Then I would argue a VM is such. OS with rollbacks or a user account on an OS or locked down iOS/Android could suffice, too.
      - panny 1y ago
        >you'd learn to bicycle My parents gave me the bicycle in a box. I had to put it together if I wanted to ride it. They owned the bicycle shop too. They could have put it together for me, but they let me do it.

While these are cool, I honestly wish GRUB was silent unless you’re holding a key during boot. The 5 seconds it takes to go away and just boot the OS by default is really unnecessary.

treyd 1y ago

I'm pretty sure there is an option for this, holding shift makes it show the menu.

arp242 1y ago

What if you don't remember the key you need to press?

necovek 1y ago
You RTFM (which can be a quick search or LLM chat away on another device like your phone).

kej 1y ago

I think you can get that by setting `GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden` and `GRUB_TIMEOUT=0`. Then you can hold `Shift` to see the GRUB menu, otherwise it will boot the default option immediately.

dustbunny 1y ago
Good tip. I've always felt like I'd like to be able to boot directly into the Second Option via a key, etc. like Shift + 2 etc
homebrewer 1y ago
Make sure this works on your system before you really need it, as some keyboard/USB-controller combinations take a few seconds to wake up from whatever slumber they're in and start working. I ran into this several times.
- NikkiA 1y ago
  That's likely something related to USB legacy support being on or off. A lot of modern BIOS/EFI also allow a hybrid setting that enables legacy support until the OS takes over, which can sometimes be better too.

voidfunc 1y ago

Why would you actually want this? Such a weird desire to hide this kind of stuff because it's so inconsequential in my mind.

Fnoord 1y ago
Because sane OSes have sane defaults, and this is one of them. Hide information by default, unless called for. Want verbose boot log? Ask for it. Want boot menu? Ask for it. Need Bluetooth enabled at boot? Aak for it. Don't overburden the user with irrelevant info. When my 7 y.o. daughter fires up the Steam Decj, she doesn't need to see the boot menu.
- deleted 1y ago
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- panny 1y ago
  >she doesn't need to see My parents let me decide what I needed to see and learn how to customize things for myself. That seems like a sane default to me.
  - Fnoord 1y ago
    No, they don't; they let you decide some things which are relevant. People in the know decide defaults. This is how it works everywhere. Else you'd learn to bicycle with your own traffic rules. You'd end under a bus. Addendum: You could say you want a sandbox, and that such is part of the sandbox to play with. Then you need some kind of way to clean up, like you can clean up the toys your kids play with (or ensure they clean up their own mess), or ensure their sandbox environment is safe (such as no fire hazards in your house). Then I would argue a VM is such. OS with rollbacks or a user account on an OS or locked down iOS/Android could suffice, too.
    - panny 1y ago
      >you'd learn to bicycle My parents gave me the bicycle in a box. I had to put it together if I wanted to ride it. They owned the bicycle shop too. They could have put it together for me, but they let me do it.