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> The other big problem is Obama changed the hiring test from testing intelligence to testing personality in a bid to increase diversity. There was a lawsuit ov

> The other big problem is Obama changed the hiring test from testing intelligence to testing personality in a bid to increase diversity. There was a lawsuit over this. It was even worse than that. What they actually did was write up a phony “personality test” and distribute the answer key to applicants who were members of preferred racial organizations. https://www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/the-full-story-of-the-faas-hiring https://www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/the-full-story-of-the-fa...

chillingeffect 1y ago
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- nichohel 1y ago
  Why would you put the years in hex, except to obscure? The tracingwoodgrains report is compelling, people should listen to it.
  - chillingeffect 1y ago
    Just for pure whimsy and it's hacker news and the year is close to 0x800 so I wanted to see if I could count backwards in hex in my head. The first half of tracing woodgrains was on-point. The 2nd half diverged into half-truth. They had a chance in court to provide evidence and couldn't. The case was dismissed. Those looking to score points against DEIA based on this case have to take the L gracefully.
- anonymars 1y ago
  "Briggs et al vs. FAA 0x7df" does not appear to be a real court case. Is this a bot? Maybe you're referring to "Brigida et al vs Pete Buttigieg, Secretary US Dept of Transportation"? Motion to dismiss for which was denied in 2021? (https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/district-of-columbia/dcdce/1:2016cv02227/182656/130/ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/distric...) "As of February 2025, this case remains ongoing"? (https://clearinghouse.net/case/45988/?doc_page=2&docket_page=4#document-list https://clearinghouse.net/case/45988/?doc_page=2&docket_page...)
  - chillingeffect 1y ago
    I put the date in hexadecimal for whimsy. If you convert and search, youll find it.
Aloisius 1y ago
In the actual OIG report, it seemed the person who gave "answers" to the test didn't actually have the behavioral test or the answer key. He stated he stressed things like answering questions like an air traffic control "and we’re alpha personalities, we’re dominating, we don’t take no for an answer." He also mentions that he got calls, from multiple people, saying they failed the behavioral test. So it seems that while he did coach answers, they weren't the literal test answers, but rather advice one could have gotten from public sources with enough research or presumably, talking to some FAA air traffic controllers. In the end, the report stated the findings in the investigation did not warrant a referral to a federal prosecutor.
- philwelch 1y ago
  The FAA investigated itself and found no misconduct. Sorry, I don’t buy it. The evidence from the still-in-progress lawsuit is pretty clear.
  - rainsford 1y ago
    OIGs are structured to be independent specifically to avoid the "investigating yourself" problem. There also doesn't seem to be much evidence the person who shared information about the test was acting at the direction of the FAA, rather than as a rogue employee. That would certainly be a key factor in the lawsuit, so it will be telling whether it comes out.
    - philwelch 1y ago
      > There also doesn't seem to be much evidence the person who shared information about the test was acting at the direction of the FAA There’s no other reasonable explanation for the biographical questionnaire and its utterly arbitrary scoring criteria.
    - AustinDev 1y ago
      >OIGs are structured to be independent specifically to avoid the "investigating yourself" problem. You ever worked in an organization that had an OIG and met the folks that work there? They wear the same uniform you do, and their behavior betrays that fact.

chillingeffect 1y ago

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nichohel 1y ago
Why would you put the years in hex, except to obscure? The tracingwoodgrains report is compelling, people should listen to it.
- chillingeffect 1y ago
  Just for pure whimsy and it's hacker news and the year is close to 0x800 so I wanted to see if I could count backwards in hex in my head. The first half of tracing woodgrains was on-point. The 2nd half diverged into half-truth. They had a chance in court to provide evidence and couldn't. The case was dismissed. Those looking to score points against DEIA based on this case have to take the L gracefully.
anonymars 1y ago
"Briggs et al vs. FAA 0x7df" does not appear to be a real court case. Is this a bot? Maybe you're referring to "Brigida et al vs Pete Buttigieg, Secretary US Dept of Transportation"? Motion to dismiss for which was denied in 2021? (https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/district-of-columbia/dcdce/1:2016cv02227/182656/130/ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/distric...) "As of February 2025, this case remains ongoing"? (https://clearinghouse.net/case/45988/?doc_page=2&docket_page=4#document-list https://clearinghouse.net/case/45988/?doc_page=2&docket_page...)
- chillingeffect 1y ago
  I put the date in hexadecimal for whimsy. If you convert and search, youll find it.

Aloisius 1y ago

In the actual OIG report, it seemed the person who gave "answers" to the test didn't actually have the behavioral test or the answer key. He stated he stressed things like answering questions like an air traffic control "and we’re alpha personalities, we’re dominating, we don’t take no for an answer." He also mentions that he got calls, from multiple people, saying they failed the behavioral test. So it seems that while he did coach answers, they weren't the literal test answers, but rather advice one could have gotten from public sources with enough research or presumably, talking to some FAA air traffic controllers. In the end, the report stated the findings in the investigation did not warrant a referral to a federal prosecutor.

philwelch 1y ago
The FAA investigated itself and found no misconduct. Sorry, I don’t buy it. The evidence from the still-in-progress lawsuit is pretty clear.
- rainsford 1y ago
  OIGs are structured to be independent specifically to avoid the "investigating yourself" problem. There also doesn't seem to be much evidence the person who shared information about the test was acting at the direction of the FAA, rather than as a rogue employee. That would certainly be a key factor in the lawsuit, so it will be telling whether it comes out.
  - philwelch 1y ago
    > There also doesn't seem to be much evidence the person who shared information about the test was acting at the direction of the FAA There’s no other reasonable explanation for the biographical questionnaire and its utterly arbitrary scoring criteria.
  - AustinDev 1y ago
    >OIGs are structured to be independent specifically to avoid the "investigating yourself" problem. You ever worked in an organization that had an OIG and met the folks that work there? They wear the same uniform you do, and their behavior betrays that fact.