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BYD has had active suspension in their Yangwang U9 supercar for two years now. It's over the top.[1] It can sense and jump potholes. Drive with one wheel missin

BYD has had active suspension in their Yangwang U9 supercar for two years now. It's over the top.[1] It can sense and jump potholes. Drive with one wheel missing. Dance to music. Do tank turns. There's even a LIDAR watching the road surface for bumps. That's not just adjustable damping; that's a fully powered suspension. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIKAn8yDkpA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIKAn8yDkpA

neom 2y ago
Obligatory wheelsboy review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASIUyfK6K4U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASIUyfK6K4U
Etheryte 2y ago
While cool as a shower thought, in reality, having a 1200HP car jump and go airborne while you're swerving to avoid a pothole is just about the last thing you want it to be doing. Traction control is pretty good these days, but not that good that you want to lose all traction at 120km/h (75mph, the speed shown in the video).
- literalAardvark 2y ago
  Which is exactly why you want that suspension. Both this and the Bose linear actuator one lift just the wheel that needs lifting, just enough to clear the obstacle, keeping everything perfectly steady, it's incredible. The fact that it can also do silly jumps for marketing reasons is a different topic.
  - Animats 2y ago
    Right. This is a demo. A more impressive demo is that it can do precise turns in place without skidding.[1] That's the U8, BYD's answer to Rivian. The U9 can do that too. Rivian did demo a turn in place, but they were spewing dirt all over.[2] Rivian took the feature out. Now, those are BYD's high end supercars, to show off the technology. The high-end volume vehicle, the U7, just came out.[3] That is under US$90K (depending on what tariffs are on this week) and competes with Tesla's higher end products. All the fancy torque and suspension control of the supercar, but at a lower price point. BYD isn't offering it in the US. Just the rest of the world. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhvjPwshME0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhvjPwshME0 [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BkxjHkOvYY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BkxjHkOvYY [3] https://electrek.co/2025/03/27/byd-launched-first-ultra-luxury-ev-sedan-at-under-90000/ https://electrek.co/2025/03/27/byd-launched-first-ultra-luxu...
    - rasz 2y ago
      Rivian is spewing dirt around because someone is flooring it in the mud, undoubtedly part of someone's marketing vision. There is similar video of U8 slinging sand around while doing 360 in the desert. G-wagon also ships with tank turn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es01er7RnGs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es01er7RnGs Seems BYD really put some engineering behind this gimmick to make it as graceful and controllable as possible, while Rivian just winged some pointless demos and G-Wagon one is rough and very situational (sand/snow/wet).
      - Animats 2y ago
        > Seems BYD really put some engineering behind this gimmick to make it as graceful and controllable as possible. Yes. That makes it useful. The automatic parking feature can use a precise skidding turn when necessary.[1] [1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/byd-s-new-feature-makes-parallel-parking-easier/vi-AA1vptLg https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/byd-s-new-feature-make...
- markdown 2y ago
  Even though they're the cream of the crop of a country of over a billion people, those silly engineers at BYD don't know what they're doing. We'd all be better off if they took tips about this problem they've spent years developing from random guy on the internet.
  - cwmoore 2y ago
    Actually
- Aurornis 2y ago
  > While cool as a shower thought, in reality, having a 1200HP car jump and go airborne while you're swerving to avoid a pothole is just about the last thing you want it to be doing. Surely the system takes cornering into account. Having a suspension that can use predictive motions to compensate for a pothole would ideally produce better handling by minimizing the disruption of a pothole imparting a massive disturbance to the vehicle.
- linsomniac 2y ago
  If you're swerving in that car and clip any portion of that pothole, you're almost certainly going to lose control anyway. And if you've swerved around the pothole successfully, there's nothing for the suspension to have to jump. ;-)
Aurornis 2y ago
The Bose Magic Carpet was the original version of all of these powered suspension cars 20 years ago. > It can sense and jump potholes. The Bose system’s most famous demo was sensing and jumping over speed bumps. > That's not just adjustable damping; that's a fully powered suspension. Right, but it appears the company who bought the Bose Magic Carpet portfolio isn’t doing what the original demo did 20 years ago, they’re just using the name.
- dingaling 2y ago
  > The Bose Magic Carpet was the original version of all of these powered suspension cars 20 years ago. No, the Citroen Activa active suspension was in production from 1996.
  - literalAardvark 2y ago
    The Activa/Xantia suspension was nice, but it was nowhere near the Bose Magic Carpet. It was a nice, mass market adaptive damping suspension. The Bose is a fully active linear actuator, and fast. It can move your wheel around a speed bump independently. It's awesome. It was also north of $100k just for the suspension and iirc was never used in mass production.
- brudgers 2y ago
  Yes, this seems significantly more about the IP than a technology breakthrough…more TikTok than 60 Minutes.
bgarbiak 2y ago
And Porsche has its Active Ride[1] tech, already implemented in Panamera and Taycan. Yet, for some reason they, supposedly, want to use the so-called Bose tech too. [1] https://youtu.be/BohF6I3_QZ4 https://youtu.be/BohF6I3_QZ4

neom 2y ago

Obligatory wheelsboy review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASIUyfK6K4U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASIUyfK6K4U

Etheryte 2y ago

While cool as a shower thought, in reality, having a 1200HP car jump and go airborne while you're swerving to avoid a pothole is just about the last thing you want it to be doing. Traction control is pretty good these days, but not that good that you want to lose all traction at 120km/h (75mph, the speed shown in the video).

literalAardvark 2y ago
Which is exactly why you want that suspension. Both this and the Bose linear actuator one lift just the wheel that needs lifting, just enough to clear the obstacle, keeping everything perfectly steady, it's incredible. The fact that it can also do silly jumps for marketing reasons is a different topic.
- Animats 2y ago
  Right. This is a demo. A more impressive demo is that it can do precise turns in place without skidding.[1] That's the U8, BYD's answer to Rivian. The U9 can do that too. Rivian did demo a turn in place, but they were spewing dirt all over.[2] Rivian took the feature out. Now, those are BYD's high end supercars, to show off the technology. The high-end volume vehicle, the U7, just came out.[3] That is under US$90K (depending on what tariffs are on this week) and competes with Tesla's higher end products. All the fancy torque and suspension control of the supercar, but at a lower price point. BYD isn't offering it in the US. Just the rest of the world. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhvjPwshME0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhvjPwshME0 [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BkxjHkOvYY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BkxjHkOvYY [3] https://electrek.co/2025/03/27/byd-launched-first-ultra-luxury-ev-sedan-at-under-90000/ https://electrek.co/2025/03/27/byd-launched-first-ultra-luxu...
  - rasz 2y ago
    Rivian is spewing dirt around because someone is flooring it in the mud, undoubtedly part of someone's marketing vision. There is similar video of U8 slinging sand around while doing 360 in the desert. G-wagon also ships with tank turn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es01er7RnGs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es01er7RnGs Seems BYD really put some engineering behind this gimmick to make it as graceful and controllable as possible, while Rivian just winged some pointless demos and G-Wagon one is rough and very situational (sand/snow/wet).
    - Animats 2y ago
      > Seems BYD really put some engineering behind this gimmick to make it as graceful and controllable as possible. Yes. That makes it useful. The automatic parking feature can use a precise skidding turn when necessary.[1] [1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/byd-s-new-feature-makes-parallel-parking-easier/vi-AA1vptLg https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/byd-s-new-feature-make...
markdown 2y ago
Even though they're the cream of the crop of a country of over a billion people, those silly engineers at BYD don't know what they're doing. We'd all be better off if they took tips about this problem they've spent years developing from random guy on the internet.
- cwmoore 2y ago
  Actually
Aurornis 2y ago
> While cool as a shower thought, in reality, having a 1200HP car jump and go airborne while you're swerving to avoid a pothole is just about the last thing you want it to be doing. Surely the system takes cornering into account. Having a suspension that can use predictive motions to compensate for a pothole would ideally produce better handling by minimizing the disruption of a pothole imparting a massive disturbance to the vehicle.
linsomniac 2y ago
If you're swerving in that car and clip any portion of that pothole, you're almost certainly going to lose control anyway. And if you've swerved around the pothole successfully, there's nothing for the suspension to have to jump. ;-)

Aurornis 2y ago

The Bose Magic Carpet was the original version of all of these powered suspension cars 20 years ago. > It can sense and jump potholes. The Bose system’s most famous demo was sensing and jumping over speed bumps. > That's not just adjustable damping; that's a fully powered suspension. Right, but it appears the company who bought the Bose Magic Carpet portfolio isn’t doing what the original demo did 20 years ago, they’re just using the name.

dingaling 2y ago
> The Bose Magic Carpet was the original version of all of these powered suspension cars 20 years ago. No, the Citroen Activa active suspension was in production from 1996.
- literalAardvark 2y ago
  The Activa/Xantia suspension was nice, but it was nowhere near the Bose Magic Carpet. It was a nice, mass market adaptive damping suspension. The Bose is a fully active linear actuator, and fast. It can move your wheel around a speed bump independently. It's awesome. It was also north of $100k just for the suspension and iirc was never used in mass production.
brudgers 2y ago
Yes, this seems significantly more about the IP than a technology breakthrough…more TikTok than 60 Minutes.

bgarbiak 2y ago

And Porsche has its Active Ride[1] tech, already implemented in Panamera and Taycan. Yet, for some reason they, supposedly, want to use the so-called Bose tech too. [1] https://youtu.be/BohF6I3_QZ4 https://youtu.be/BohF6I3_QZ4