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The UK has very strict requirements around certain foods that their farmers have to meet. Allowing US farmers to bypass those requirements will undercut those d

The UK has very strict requirements around certain foods that their farmers have to meet. Allowing US farmers to bypass those requirements will undercut those domestic farmers and while individual consumers may still opt for the more expensive domestic option, restaurants and takeout businesses will usually opt for the cheapest option which introduces it to the country even if the consumers don't want it. It's not like McDonalds has a sign that says "Made with US Chicken!" on your nuggets. Secondly, allowing cheap US chicken just penalizes the poorest in your country that will go for the cheapest option to survive. Some people don't have choice and food standards help bring the bottom up.

gruez 1y ago
>restaurants and takeout businesses will usually opt for the cheapest option which introduces it to the country even if the consumers don't want it Restaurants are free to advertise that they use domestic chicken. You can even legislate mandatory labeling if you're so inclined. The fact that you think consumers need to be actively prevented from getting US chicken, because they don't have the capacity to decide for themselves contradicts your claim that "Brits are NOT having it".
- ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
  It really doesn't but you're free to think that the only way to determine that is to allow complete free market access and just see what happens.
  - blibble 1y ago
    and it's not a free market, the animals are fed with federally subsidised corn it's classic dumping, the sort that Trump gets upset about
- kyralis 1y ago
  This is the silliness of the pure free-market libertarianism, with its stray man of "oh, you're being paternal and saying they can't decide for themselves!". No. A society, which has chosen its government, has decided that it would like to outsource the individual work of tracking food provenance and safety in the form of ensuring that the only food available is food that meets the standards that the society has decided to set. This is specialization at work, which is in fact one of the primary drivers of civilization and progress. No one is saying that people can't make these decisions by themselves. People are saying they do not want to, especially in an environment that is heavily information-asymmetric. I'm a well-educated, intelligent software engineer. Sure, I could go looking into the details of the production facility for all of the meat that I buy, maybe, at the grocery store - but I certainly don't want to. And if I go to a restaurant, I absolutely do not want to have to spend hours researching their supply chain first. This is not incapacity. This is intelligent division of labor.
- 8note 1y ago
  you can look at canadian stores as of late, which are taking to relabelling "made in the USA" with maple leaf stickers. the US is free to make non-chlorine chicken, and then sell it to places that demad non-chlorine chicken
cjs_ac 1y ago
> It's not like McDonalds has a sign that says "Made with US Chicken!" on your nuggets. I'm not sure whether this is still the case, but the cardboard boxes that McDonald's packages its burgers in in Australia used to have '100% Aussie beef' printed on them, but the beef was actually imported from South America by a wholly-McDonald's-owned subsidiary called '100% Aussie'.
- distances 1y ago
  I have hard time believing this actually happened. Any references?

gruez 1y ago

>restaurants and takeout businesses will usually opt for the cheapest option which introduces it to the country even if the consumers don't want it Restaurants are free to advertise that they use domestic chicken. You can even legislate mandatory labeling if you're so inclined. The fact that you think consumers need to be actively prevented from getting US chicken, because they don't have the capacity to decide for themselves contradicts your claim that "Brits are NOT having it".

ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
It really doesn't but you're free to think that the only way to determine that is to allow complete free market access and just see what happens.
- blibble 1y ago
  and it's not a free market, the animals are fed with federally subsidised corn it's classic dumping, the sort that Trump gets upset about
kyralis 1y ago
This is the silliness of the pure free-market libertarianism, with its stray man of "oh, you're being paternal and saying they can't decide for themselves!". No. A society, which has chosen its government, has decided that it would like to outsource the individual work of tracking food provenance and safety in the form of ensuring that the only food available is food that meets the standards that the society has decided to set. This is specialization at work, which is in fact one of the primary drivers of civilization and progress. No one is saying that people can't make these decisions by themselves. People are saying they do not want to, especially in an environment that is heavily information-asymmetric. I'm a well-educated, intelligent software engineer. Sure, I could go looking into the details of the production facility for all of the meat that I buy, maybe, at the grocery store - but I certainly don't want to. And if I go to a restaurant, I absolutely do not want to have to spend hours researching their supply chain first. This is not incapacity. This is intelligent division of labor.
8note 1y ago
you can look at canadian stores as of late, which are taking to relabelling "made in the USA" with maple leaf stickers. the US is free to make non-chlorine chicken, and then sell it to places that demad non-chlorine chicken

cjs_ac 1y ago

> It's not like McDonalds has a sign that says "Made with US Chicken!" on your nuggets. I'm not sure whether this is still the case, but the cardboard boxes that McDonald's packages its burgers in in Australia used to have '100% Aussie beef' printed on them, but the beef was actually imported from South America by a wholly-McDonald's-owned subsidiary called '100% Aussie'.

distances 1y ago
I have hard time believing this actually happened. Any references?