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It's hard to give this take serious thought when just today I built a bunch of utility software I'd been putting off due to lack of time and domain specific kno
by Etheryte 1y ago
It's hard to give this take serious thought when just today I built a bunch of utility software I'd been putting off due to lack of time and domain specific knowledge, all by working together with an LLM. Takes some time and back and forth, but it works and does the things I need. It doesn't need to get everything right nor to get it right the first time, humans don't tick either of those boxes either. The value add is already clearly there and it's most likely going to improve over time.
- grey-area 1y agoAnother way to look at this amazing performance improvement for you in making small tools is you’re just using bits of other people’s work that were lying around on the internet, without licensing, permission, or attribution. Are you ok with that?
- beisner 1y agoIntellectual property is theft
- anton-c 1y agoSo what's my incentive to write music(which is free to listen to) if someone can just use it commercially in a game or show with no compensation? Why would I do character design when Disney could just take it for free and leave me SOL?
- BillyTheMage 1y agoYou're right, we should get rid of profit too
- anton-c 1y agoI mean if I can still make stuff, survive, and society doesnt collapse... sign me up
- grey-area 1y agoThere are certainly flaws in the current system but I don’t agree all intellectual property is theft. It’s what lets authors make money from a book without other people ripping them off, to cite one example.
- SubmarineClub 1y agoIn what way, functionally, is it any different than scouring through StackOverflow and blog posts until you've got whatever thing working?
- grey-area 1y agoIt’s different because licensed code on github and other websites is different from freely given code snippets on stack overflow. A blog post is not permission to reproduce code with small changes. Neither is posting it under an open source license which usually require attribution.
- detaro 1y agoquiz question: What's the license of code snippets on stack overflow?
- grey-area 1y agoNo idea sorry but the implied idea of the site is that people will use answers and snippets without attribution. Absolutely not the case with other OS code posted online.
- detaro 1y agoIt's under CC-BY-SA, which is very incompatible with pretty much everything else.
- grey-area 1y agoThat’s funny, I guess everyone just ignores that, but legally it means AI should not be trained on it either since it requires attribution, I wonder was it always that way? I think AI companies are just trying to ignore IP laws entirely, perhaps they’ll get away with it but there is bound to be a case where a small tool or game is 90% identical to a source reference at some point given the way these LLMs work.
- deadbabe 1y agoChances are the majority of whatever you built has already been built and published as open source by someone somewhere.
- the__alchemist 1y agoThis line or reasoning itself has already been stated many times, notably as Saunt Lora's Proposition.
- mock-possum 1y agoSure but the person you’re replying to was able to build their thing with no knowledge of that.
- Etheryte 1y agoYou could make the same quip about nearly any piece of software, yet most everyone on HN still has a business or a job. If it exists, but I can't find it or it's too cumbersome to set up or use, it's functionally as good to me as it not existing.
- Lamad1234 1y ago[dead]