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> on the 80th anniversary of the USSR conquering half of Europe. Weird way to say defeating the Nazis despite millions in losses.
by MSFT_Edging 1y ago
> on the 80th anniversary of the USSR conquering half of Europe.
Weird way to say defeating the Nazis despite millions in losses.
- meindnoch 1y agoThey overstayed a tiny bit.
- EndsOfnversion 1y agoYou mean former-Nazi allies the Soviet Union?
- Mountain_Skies 1y agoYes, the former Nazi allies that the Allies gleefully partnered with as soon as the opportunity presented itself. Of course that was just a one time thing and the West would never again ally itself it forces that openly call themselves Nazis. Oh wait, the West is currently doing that today. Relative moralism is something the West specializes in doing.
- EasyMark 1y agoThere was no glee, it was simply a partnership of convenience to defeat the much worse enemy. The west didn't starve and murder their own people to the tune of 10 million+ like the Soviets did, outside of the losses in fighting the Nazis
- hedora 1y agoThey starved about 10 million and they murdered another 10 million: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_t... Their total losses were about 26.6M. For comparison, German concentration camps killed about 6M, but Russia was on our side, so we don’t like to compare these two numbers.
- EndsOfnversion 1y agoJust to clarify further, we are talking about the Katyn massacre Soviet Union?
- mcv 1y agoThey did both. They defeated the Nazis, but they didn't exactly "liberate" eastern Europe. They just replaced one occupier with another.
- EasyMark 1y agoThey helped* defeat the Nazis
- mcv 1y agoThe Soviets did do by far the majority of the fighting. And dying. Of course that was also a symptom of the brutal and inhuman regime: soldiers were sent into battle in suicidal human wave attacks, sometimes even without a weapon, because Stalin didn't care about their lives. But they were fighting the brunt of the German military machine, and they did defeat them. It wasn't North Africa or Normandy that broke the Nazis, it was Russia.
- af78 1y agoUkraine and Belarus suffered the highest losses in proportion of their population. Weird that contemporary Russia tries to take credit for results obtained with the blood of others.
- ponector 1y agoDon't forget they started world war together with Nazis.
- EasyMark 1y agoThen abusing the big win by attempting to absorb all the Eastern European companies as puppet provinces. Let's not act like they weren't doing it for their own ambitions, just like Hitler. A lot of those millions could have been preventable because Stalin had zero concern for the lives of citizens or his military