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Nice, but I feel like to be qualified as a blog it needs two little additional things: 1- Make sure to order post by date (most recent first) and to display th

by p4bl0 1y ago

Nice, but I feel like to be qualified as a blog it needs two little additional things: 1- Make sure to order post by date (most recent first) and to display that date somewhere. The date can simply be taken from the post file meta data (e.g. creation time) to keep things minimal. 2- An RSS feed of course! It should be quite easy to generate a minimal one with only links and titles based on the existing script and a minimal RSS template.

ostwilkens 1y ago
That's fair! 1- I'm leaning towards an automatically generated file containing metadata, TOML or such 2- RSS is definitely coming, but is dependent on point 1 :-)
- MarceColl 1y ago
  In the spirit of being minimally viable you could just have that in the filename and sort it before generating.
- kryptiskt 1y ago
  Since RSS is a pretty simple format, it doesn't require any automation, just a little copy and paste. "Handwriting your RSS feed"[0] makes the case for doing it that way. [0] https://everest-pipkin.com/teaching/handmadeRSS https://everest-pipkin.com/teaching/handmadeRSS
arccy 1y ago
while rss is nice, it really shouldn't be required to be considered a blog. being "followed" isn't always a good thing, it can create pressure to pander to your audience, the same thing that makes social media bad.
- susam 1y ago
  > while rss is nice, it really shouldn't be required to be considered a blog. I agree. A blog is literally a web log. A chronological sequence of posts published on the web. RSS is certainly helpful for syndication and distribution but I wouldn't consider it to be a defining part of what a web log is.
  - prox 1y ago
    Good point. My idealistic (realistic?) view of a web log is just a person typing out something unique that concerns that person and their view, life, or experiences. As soon as you start catering to and fishing for views you lose that angle. Not a drama, but it’s already 99.5% of the internet. Edit : I really like Marginalia search, for prioritizing non commercial content. https://marginalia-search.com/ https://marginalia-search.com/
- citizenkeen 1y ago
  I don’t think RSS is required for soldering to be a blog, but I do think it’s required for it to be a viable one.
- qudat 1y ago
  I agree but I could also imagine a world where a minimally viable blog is just an RSS feed.
- politelemon 1y ago
  > it can create pressure to pander to your audience RSS creates no such pressure, as you needn't be aware of who/what is following you. It's a convenience function simply for the convenience, rather than as a form and measure of external validation.
  - arccy 1y ago
    the pressure is intrinsic from the knowledge that what you publish will now be displayed to a bunch of people, unfiltered by algorithms. do you really want to put out a post that you yourself might find useful, but might be considered shallow, low effort, repetitive, non unique by your readers, and a waste of their time? the fact that people want to read every new thing being posted is external validation, rather than letting each piece stand alone by its merit.
    - import 1y ago
      RSS is very liberating. Quality of content is something very subjective and the audience can choose what to engage with. Nothing called perfect and not every post has to be a masterpiece.
    - throwaway519 1y ago
      For a similar reason, blog posts should have no words as these can become SOE and the purpose of blogging become intrinsic SEO. Personally, I blog in my head but am concerned still it could lead to bias in my other activities which are mainly related to sitting under a tree by a lake in the middle of nowhere.
    - egypturnash 1y ago
      I’ve had a Wordpress blog since 2012, and many years of a Livejournal before that (when timeline filters were pretty much nonexistent) and I don’t think I ever felt this fear. Sometimes I had art to share. Sometimes a serious post about something that was on my mind. Sometimes just the results of a “which Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle are you” quiz that half my friends had already posted. Worrying about this “pressure” is a great way to be that guy with three posts about their new static site generator and nothing else.

by p4bl0 1y ago

ostwilkens 1y ago

That's fair! 1- I'm leaning towards an automatically generated file containing metadata, TOML or such 2- RSS is definitely coming, but is dependent on point 1 :-)

MarceColl 1y ago
In the spirit of being minimally viable you could just have that in the filename and sort it before generating.
kryptiskt 1y ago
Since RSS is a pretty simple format, it doesn't require any automation, just a little copy and paste. "Handwriting your RSS feed"[0] makes the case for doing it that way. [0] https://everest-pipkin.com/teaching/handmadeRSS https://everest-pipkin.com/teaching/handmadeRSS

arccy 1y ago

while rss is nice, it really shouldn't be required to be considered a blog. being "followed" isn't always a good thing, it can create pressure to pander to your audience, the same thing that makes social media bad.

susam 1y ago
> while rss is nice, it really shouldn't be required to be considered a blog. I agree. A blog is literally a web log. A chronological sequence of posts published on the web. RSS is certainly helpful for syndication and distribution but I wouldn't consider it to be a defining part of what a web log is.
- prox 1y ago
  Good point. My idealistic (realistic?) view of a web log is just a person typing out something unique that concerns that person and their view, life, or experiences. As soon as you start catering to and fishing for views you lose that angle. Not a drama, but it’s already 99.5% of the internet. Edit : I really like Marginalia search, for prioritizing non commercial content. https://marginalia-search.com/ https://marginalia-search.com/
citizenkeen 1y ago
I don’t think RSS is required for soldering to be a blog, but I do think it’s required for it to be a viable one.
qudat 1y ago
I agree but I could also imagine a world where a minimally viable blog is just an RSS feed.
politelemon 1y ago
> it can create pressure to pander to your audience RSS creates no such pressure, as you needn't be aware of who/what is following you. It's a convenience function simply for the convenience, rather than as a form and measure of external validation.
- arccy 1y ago
  the pressure is intrinsic from the knowledge that what you publish will now be displayed to a bunch of people, unfiltered by algorithms. do you really want to put out a post that you yourself might find useful, but might be considered shallow, low effort, repetitive, non unique by your readers, and a waste of their time? the fact that people want to read every new thing being posted is external validation, rather than letting each piece stand alone by its merit.
  - import 1y ago
    RSS is very liberating. Quality of content is something very subjective and the audience can choose what to engage with. Nothing called perfect and not every post has to be a masterpiece.
  - throwaway519 1y ago
    For a similar reason, blog posts should have no words as these can become SOE and the purpose of blogging become intrinsic SEO. Personally, I blog in my head but am concerned still it could lead to bias in my other activities which are mainly related to sitting under a tree by a lake in the middle of nowhere.
  - egypturnash 1y ago
    I’ve had a Wordpress blog since 2012, and many years of a Livejournal before that (when timeline filters were pretty much nonexistent) and I don’t think I ever felt this fear. Sometimes I had art to share. Sometimes a serious post about something that was on my mind. Sometimes just the results of a “which Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle are you” quiz that half my friends had already posted. Worrying about this “pressure” is a great way to be that guy with three posts about their new static site generator and nothing else.