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> help bolster a critical sector of the American economy, which often can't find enough drivers. They can find enough drivers, but won’t pay them enough or gi
by gazook89 1y ago
> help bolster a critical sector of the American economy, which often can't find enough drivers.
They can find enough drivers, but won’t pay them enough or give them any dignity. The industry has a 90% turnover rate per year. So obviously they are finding drivers all the time…they just don’t keep them.
- encrypted_bird 1y agoThank you. This is no better than that terribly disingenuous argument that "nobody wants to work". No, we'd love to work. But we also value not starving to death and having some semblance of work-life balance.
- throwaway48476 1y agoSomeone dug into newspaper archives and found an example of the "nobody wants to work anymore" phrase every year for the last 100 years. The phrase likely predates the printing press. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32161426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32161426
- mangodrunk 1y agoThanks for sharing. Here’s the snopes article confirming the articles referenced: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nobody-wants-to-work-anymore/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nobody-wants-to-work-anymo...
- encrypted_bird 1y agoThis doesn't surprise me in the least. It's the same thing with older people claiming moral degeneration with younger generations.
- dylan604 1y agoOr every generations' younger crowd that think the olds are senile fools that have no clue about anything today and mainly tolerated and polite to as long as they are in the room, but then immediately make fun of them as soon as they leave. As if there's no wisdom that could be shared from their experience. The folly of youth thinking they are invincible is equal to this so called claiming of moral degeneration.
- encrypted_bird 1y agoYes, that too. I fully agree. Both ends of the age spectrum have valuable contributions; one denigrating the other provides no value.
- krapp 1y ago>But we also value not starving to death and having some semblance of work-life balance. But the free market has decided you're barely worth the cost to keep alive, much less happy. What are you, some kind of communist?
- encrypted_bird 1y agoDemocratic socialist actually. I believe markets are fine but that there needs to be strong worker protections. (I know you were joking, but I figured I'd answer honestly anyway. Hehe.)
- drivingmenuts 1y agoI think the free market is trying to decide if we’re even worth the cost of, well, anything.
- calmbell 1y agoHere is an article from 2022 that does a great job of explaining the issue: https://www.columnblog.com/p/us-media-celebrates-letting-18-year https://www.columnblog.com/p/us-media-celebrates-letting-18-... "Cut to 2022. Wages are still down 30% to 50% in key markets, and the job is as dangerous and taxing as ever. Naturally, the pool of people wanting the job would reduce accordingly. Thus, when demand for truckers increases, there’s a “labor shortage.” But, as Peter Greene noted in Forbes when debunking a related myth of “teacher shortages” in 2019, it’s not a lack of willing workers: It’s a severe lack of incentives—wages, unions, benefits—needed to entice workers to take on the difficult work"
- ethagnawl 1y agoI wish it were possible to get this through to the NOBODY WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE crowd. Ironically, they're the ones who would benefit from better working conditions, compensation and a stronger safety net. It's a similar phenomenon to the working class folks I know who "hate unions" ... just as long as it's not theirs or one they might be able to join.
- horns4lyfe 1y agoWould you apply the same logic to people who claim we need illegal immigrants to do the jobs “no one wants to do”?