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> There is another level of parallelism that could be exploited within a web site/app. And yes we would have to make our planner rate limit aware for that. Peo

> There is another level of parallelism that could be exploited within a web site/app. And yes we would have to make our planner rate limit aware for that. People are already deploying tools like Anubis[1] or go-away[2] to cope with the insane load that bots put on their server infrastructure. This is an arms race. In the end, the users lose. [1]: https://anubis.techaro.lol https://anubis.techaro.lol [2]: https://git.gammaspectra.live/git/go-away https://git.gammaspectra.live/git/go-away

calebhwin 1y ago
IMO it depends on how this tech is deployed. One way I see this being extremely useful is for developers to quickly build AI automation for their own sites. E.g. if I'm the developer of a workforce management app (e.g. https://WhenIWork.com https://WhenIWork.com) I could deploy BLAST to quickly provide automation for users of my app.
- rollcat 1y ago
  That's my point. You can use a knife to slice bread or to stab your neighbor. We're seeing an unprecedented amount of stabbings. People are getting away with murder, there's no accountability. Refining the stilettos doesn't help the problem.
  - spiderfarmer 1y ago
    I just block every AI bot that doesn’t give me traffic or other benefits. I know I can’t block them all, but it won’t be for a lack of trying.
lostmsu 1y ago
> In the end, the users lose. I think it would take more substantiation to claim this. Maybe 10 out of 1000 websites will get closed, but the users will be able to use AI tools to use the remaining 990. Not sure about you, but sounds like a win for users to me.
- taskforcegemini 1y ago
  >Maybe 10 out of 1000 websites will get closed this may be true for the time being (or not), but will sure change if/when more [websites] become aware of what is going on. The result will be 10 out of 1000 websites will remain open, and not the ones you actually want. The more pressure there is on the sites/servers, the more these will have to act to stay online to begin with.
  - lostmsu 1y ago
    I find it extremely unlikely that 99% websites will shutdown just because they discover they are being used via AI. I don't think even 1% would shut down without replacement.
- rollcat 1y ago
  Yes, and these are the websites that aren't behind CloudFlare or some other CDN. The holdouts of the open, independent Internet. Sure, let them burn.
  - lostmsu 1y ago
    Do you have any stats? A few vocal people on HN barely scratch the surface.

calebhwin 1y ago

IMO it depends on how this tech is deployed. One way I see this being extremely useful is for developers to quickly build AI automation for their own sites. E.g. if I'm the developer of a workforce management app (e.g. https://WhenIWork.com https://WhenIWork.com) I could deploy BLAST to quickly provide automation for users of my app.

rollcat 1y ago
That's my point. You can use a knife to slice bread or to stab your neighbor. We're seeing an unprecedented amount of stabbings. People are getting away with murder, there's no accountability. Refining the stilettos doesn't help the problem.
- spiderfarmer 1y ago
  I just block every AI bot that doesn’t give me traffic or other benefits. I know I can’t block them all, but it won’t be for a lack of trying.

lostmsu 1y ago

> In the end, the users lose. I think it would take more substantiation to claim this. Maybe 10 out of 1000 websites will get closed, but the users will be able to use AI tools to use the remaining 990. Not sure about you, but sounds like a win for users to me.

taskforcegemini 1y ago
>Maybe 10 out of 1000 websites will get closed this may be true for the time being (or not), but will sure change if/when more [websites] become aware of what is going on. The result will be 10 out of 1000 websites will remain open, and not the ones you actually want. The more pressure there is on the sites/servers, the more these will have to act to stay online to begin with.
- lostmsu 1y ago
  I find it extremely unlikely that 99% websites will shutdown just because they discover they are being used via AI. I don't think even 1% would shut down without replacement.
rollcat 1y ago
Yes, and these are the websites that aren't behind CloudFlare or some other CDN. The holdouts of the open, independent Internet. Sure, let them burn.
- lostmsu 1y ago
  Do you have any stats? A few vocal people on HN barely scratch the surface.