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It definitely comes from both. Objective C Block prototypes? C typedefs? blech.

• chc 14y ago
  Unless I misunderstand you, block type syntax is almost identical to function pointers. In both cases, you should generally typedef them and then your code is once again free from ugliness.
  • gte910h 14y ago
    Function pointers are also blech looking.
  • jfb 14y ago
    Having to typedef at all is a sign of deep, unfixable badness.
    • Jach 14y ago
      I'm not sure how you arrived at that belief, unless perhaps you think everything should be (visibly to the programmer) type-free? Care to elaborate? I think it would be nice if C and C++ supported more type semantics than `typedef` and `class`, say something as powerful as Haskell's system...
      • jfb 14y ago
        It's the fundamental unfixable crappiness of C declaration syntax that makes 'typedef' necessary.
        • akldfgj 14y ago
          Example? What language doesn't need typedefs? Java doesn't have typedefs, and most everyone agrees that's a language bug.
          • jfb 14y ago
            typedef as type aliasing: uncontroversial. typedef to paper over hideous syntax mistakes: disgusting.
    • swift 14y ago
      I am unable to reply to my sibling poster, but I believe what you're saying is that having a hideous and unreadable syntax that forces the use of typedefs just so others can understand what you have written is a sign of deep, unfixable badness. And I agree.