Societally we made that association, so it's not the programs fault, they simply live the same world we live in. Kurt Vonnegut: See, I came up through a chemis

Societally we made that association, so it's not the programs fault, they simply live the same world we live in. Kurt Vonnegut: See, I came up through a chemistry department. Charlie Rose: Yeah, right. Kurt Vonnegut: And so I wrote and there was nobody there to tell me whether it was any good or not. I was just making my soul grow, writing stories. There's some stuff about his opinion on training for writing that could be relevant: https://charlierose.com/videos/25437 https://charlierose.com/videos/25437 I don't think it's fair to attribute anything to anything. Stuff comes from all over the place. In other words, attributing programming prowess to math was a mistake, and we are making the same mistake again attributing it to language. --- Just one more: Kurt Vonnegut: --consider himself in competition with a world's champion. And this is one reason good writers are unlikely to come from an English Department. It's because the English Department teaches you good taste too early. I think his main point is when we put something on a pedestal, we actually limit people, whether that be math or language.