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So tech exists in a void, filled with angelic, perfect beings, that read manuals and are in no aspect ever self destructive?

calmbonsai 1y ago
Not at all. This article is trying to blame a modern technology for an ages-old issue of mystical faith. Replace "ChatGPT" with a Ouija board, a Séance, or the classic cinematic Gypsy Fortune Teller and you'll get the same result.
- hshdhdhj4444 1y ago
  So you don’t think it’s useful to learn that there are people who will indeed use ChatGPT as they would an Ouija board, or seance, or a fortune teller? Because that is certainly news to me and is extremely counterintuitive, considering that the whole idea behind those other things is that they are infused with mystical spirits whereas even the makers of ChatGPT don’t suggest that. Alternatively instead of mysticism, it may be the belief in the technology being scientifically accurate that including in its ability to scientifically accurately predict the future that may be driving this decision making. If the latter that raises many questions around us technologists who are working on or with these technologies to do a better job of explaining to the users what the limitations of these technologies are.
  - hnuser123456 1y ago
    You are putting way too much thought into this. Some people are just extremely emotionally vulnerable and insecure, and will look to ANYTHING to try to satiate that anxiety, and accept any answer. Look at how huge and fervent communities around astrology are. There have been countless studies showing that self-proclaimed "skilled astrologers" have no better chance than random of predicting someone's sign (based on birth month) given a detailed description of that person's life and personality. But that literally doesn't matter, because it's too much fun to these people to divide everyone into groups and stereotype them, regardless if there's no evidence at all behind the stereotypes. And then invent causality for fun, just to feel like they understand why people are they way they are without doing any of the actual work of understanding their life story. Literally, they do not care about the proof of causality, they already fully believe it and fully believe that anyone who doesn't "just doesn't get it." They just want to say "oh I'm an Aries, you can't blame me for being like this." and "Of course he did that, he's a Leo." These people are going to exist with or without chatgpt. Maybe we should adjust the instruction training to tell people that you can't make worldly predictions from the arrangement of coffee grounds in a cup, other than the quality of the coffee machine and filters, no matter how creative and fantasy-like the users want the model to be.
FirmwareBurner 1y ago
Wanna hear about the French woman scammed of 800k Euros by AI Brad Pitt wanting to marry her? Some humans are insanely stupid and have no self awareness, they were gonna loose with or without AI. At some point it's natural selection at work. We can't halt technology progress just because some people are stupid.
- ashoeafoot 1y ago
  Yes, we can and yes we do that thing right now. We have nuclear proliferation allover the middle east right now, a very real powder keg of technology having gone way to far. Some technologies are allowed to grow because they lower the chance of self violation , but yes, most technology goes back into the lamp.
  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
    I assumed it was obvious I was referring to consumer accessible technology. We don't need nuclear energy to kill ourselves. Over one million people die in car accidents per year worldwide, that's two per minute, and if we still haven't banned cars by now then sure as hell we're not gonna ban LLMs.

calmbonsai 1y ago

Not at all. This article is trying to blame a modern technology for an ages-old issue of mystical faith. Replace "ChatGPT" with a Ouija board, a Séance, or the classic cinematic Gypsy Fortune Teller and you'll get the same result.

hshdhdhj4444 1y ago
So you don’t think it’s useful to learn that there are people who will indeed use ChatGPT as they would an Ouija board, or seance, or a fortune teller? Because that is certainly news to me and is extremely counterintuitive, considering that the whole idea behind those other things is that they are infused with mystical spirits whereas even the makers of ChatGPT don’t suggest that. Alternatively instead of mysticism, it may be the belief in the technology being scientifically accurate that including in its ability to scientifically accurately predict the future that may be driving this decision making. If the latter that raises many questions around us technologists who are working on or with these technologies to do a better job of explaining to the users what the limitations of these technologies are.
- hnuser123456 1y ago
  You are putting way too much thought into this. Some people are just extremely emotionally vulnerable and insecure, and will look to ANYTHING to try to satiate that anxiety, and accept any answer. Look at how huge and fervent communities around astrology are. There have been countless studies showing that self-proclaimed "skilled astrologers" have no better chance than random of predicting someone's sign (based on birth month) given a detailed description of that person's life and personality. But that literally doesn't matter, because it's too much fun to these people to divide everyone into groups and stereotype them, regardless if there's no evidence at all behind the stereotypes. And then invent causality for fun, just to feel like they understand why people are they way they are without doing any of the actual work of understanding their life story. Literally, they do not care about the proof of causality, they already fully believe it and fully believe that anyone who doesn't "just doesn't get it." They just want to say "oh I'm an Aries, you can't blame me for being like this." and "Of course he did that, he's a Leo." These people are going to exist with or without chatgpt. Maybe we should adjust the instruction training to tell people that you can't make worldly predictions from the arrangement of coffee grounds in a cup, other than the quality of the coffee machine and filters, no matter how creative and fantasy-like the users want the model to be.

FirmwareBurner 1y ago

Wanna hear about the French woman scammed of 800k Euros by AI Brad Pitt wanting to marry her? Some humans are insanely stupid and have no self awareness, they were gonna loose with or without AI. At some point it's natural selection at work. We can't halt technology progress just because some people are stupid.

ashoeafoot 1y ago
Yes, we can and yes we do that thing right now. We have nuclear proliferation allover the middle east right now, a very real powder keg of technology having gone way to far. Some technologies are allowed to grow because they lower the chance of self violation , but yes, most technology goes back into the lamp.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  I assumed it was obvious I was referring to consumer accessible technology. We don't need nuclear energy to kill ourselves. Over one million people die in car accidents per year worldwide, that's two per minute, and if we still haven't banned cars by now then sure as hell we're not gonna ban LLMs.