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I would say science and why not also democracy are having their Cannae moment right now. And it's painful to watch...

by soco 1y ago

ogogmad 1y ago
#NotAllDemocracies More broadly, I think that Americans have been too arrogant and have been prone to thinking that the only part of the world which matters stops at their own borders.
- deleted 1y ago
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- readthenotes1 1y ago
  In support of "democracy", some States tried to prevent Trump from being on the 2024 ballot--that is, to prevent the demos from selecting who they wanted. There are several similar stories from Europe where the putatively democratically elected leaders are working to save the demos from itself. So #NotAllDemocracies, but more than there should be
  - Attrecomet 1y ago
    It's not horribly unusual for a system that can be called democratic with every right to exclude those that have repeatedly stated, and shown in action, that they would not actually abide by any result that goes against them. It's the paradox of intolerance right there -- it's not those defending the rules of democracy that are damaging it.
  - dudinax 1y ago
    A democracy has to protect itself from coup attempts
    - readthenotes1 1y ago
      You think of elections as coups? Fair, but those peaceful coups are the essence of democracy.
- FredPret 1y ago
  This is a natural consequence of: - major oceans on two sides, very similar country on one side, and only one border with a truly different country - 25% of the world's economy - very easy to travel, work, and do business internally across the US - some cultural and lots of climate diversity inside the US All of which means you can live a very full and happy life without ever leaving the States or even thinking about what happens outside of it.
Qem 1y ago
That is happening in the energy sector. US owes a lot of its initial development surge to early oil exploration. But now China is making strides in green energy, fleet electrification and renewables deployment, while the big oil lobby acts like an anchor dragging US behind, hampering advance in those areas.

I would say science and why not also democracy are having their Cannae moment right now. And it's painful to watch...

by soco 1y ago

I would say science and why not also democracy are having their Cannae moment right now. And it's painful to watch...

#NotAllDemocracies More broadly, I think that Americans have been too arrogant and have been prone to thinking that the only part of the world which matters stops at their own borders.

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readthenotes1 1y ago
In support of "democracy", some States tried to prevent Trump from being on the 2024 ballot--that is, to prevent the demos from selecting who they wanted. There are several similar stories from Europe where the putatively democratically elected leaders are working to save the demos from itself. So #NotAllDemocracies, but more than there should be
- Attrecomet 1y ago
  It's not horribly unusual for a system that can be called democratic with every right to exclude those that have repeatedly stated, and shown in action, that they would not actually abide by any result that goes against them. It's the paradox of intolerance right there -- it's not those defending the rules of democracy that are damaging it.
- dudinax 1y ago
  A democracy has to protect itself from coup attempts
  - readthenotes1 1y ago
    You think of elections as coups? Fair, but those peaceful coups are the essence of democracy.
FredPret 1y ago
This is a natural consequence of: - major oceans on two sides, very similar country on one side, and only one border with a truly different country - 25% of the world's economy - very easy to travel, work, and do business internally across the US - some cultural and lots of climate diversity inside the US All of which means you can live a very full and happy life without ever leaving the States or even thinking about what happens outside of it.

Qem 1y ago

That is happening in the energy sector. US owes a lot of its initial development surge to early oil exploration. But now China is making strides in green energy, fleet electrification and renewables deployment, while the big oil lobby acts like an anchor dragging US behind, hampering advance in those areas.