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Meta (and Zuckerberg) are nomads in the current tech space. They have no platform to call their own, so when a platform holder decides to turn the screws on the

by sylens 1y ago

Meta (and Zuckerberg) are nomads in the current tech space. They have no platform to call their own, so when a platform holder decides to turn the screws on them (like Apple with the App Tracking Transparency), they have little recourse. This is what the future would have looked like for Google if Android did not become a success. Zuckerberg knows this and saw VR as a potential platform that they could own moving forward. It's why they have invested so much in it, renamed the company, and played for keeps making deals with game developers to publish their games on their store. The problem is that VR is a niche that will never crossover to the mainstream until major problems are solved with the form factor and battery life. Nobody wants a headset strapped to their face for a prolonged period of time. Even the most hardcore of gamers see their headsets collecting dust after a few months.

fidotron 1y ago
> played for keeps making deals with game developers to publish their games on their store I know rooms full of games industry business people that would die laughing at this suggestion. It's in the same league as talking about third party support on the Wii U.
- sylens 1y ago
  It's not great but when compared to the effort Sony put into the PS VR2, Meta's effort to support their Quest devices seems herculean.
  - bentt 1y ago
    Sony has never lied to itself that VR is a gateway to the metaverse. It tapped the TAM of VR gaming and saw it was small, not worth their attention. Rational actor compared to Zuck whose only goal is to dominate a future he is attempting to will into existence (which nobody wants).
apwell23 1y ago
> like Apple with the App Tracking Transparency I remember this was a big news a few years ago and stock was battered for a while. How come it didn't seem to effect their bottomlines and stock prices now ?
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BobaFloutist 1y ago
>It's why they have invested so much in it, renamed the company, and played for keeps making deals with game developers to publish their games on their store. Do you know this from anything he or meta has explicitly said, or is it conjecture based on assuming rational behavior and working backwards to come up with the most plausible explanation? Occam's razor still says to me that Zuckerberg just personally finds VR really cool and compelling, and decided to point his money-printing machine in its direction. Kinda like Musk and space or the Kochs and preventing local investment in public transit. I really do think he just thinks it's neat.
karmakaze 1y ago
This is why I believe Valve will win the space regardless of how slow they move. Meta's desire for VR/AR is incidendal, primary is 'the platform' they'll own and so it will never be as good as someone making it as a primary goal. Same goes for Apple's Vision Pro/Air who's reluctant to even call things VR or AR--I wonder what they'll call the games, experience apps?

by sylens 1y ago

fidotron 1y ago

> played for keeps making deals with game developers to publish their games on their store I know rooms full of games industry business people that would die laughing at this suggestion. It's in the same league as talking about third party support on the Wii U.

sylens 1y ago
It's not great but when compared to the effort Sony put into the PS VR2, Meta's effort to support their Quest devices seems herculean.
- bentt 1y ago
  Sony has never lied to itself that VR is a gateway to the metaverse. It tapped the TAM of VR gaming and saw it was small, not worth their attention. Rational actor compared to Zuck whose only goal is to dominate a future he is attempting to will into existence (which nobody wants).

apwell23 1y ago

> like Apple with the App Tracking Transparency I remember this was a big news a few years ago and stock was battered for a while. How come it didn't seem to effect their bottomlines and stock prices now ?

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BobaFloutist 1y ago

>It's why they have invested so much in it, renamed the company, and played for keeps making deals with game developers to publish their games on their store. Do you know this from anything he or meta has explicitly said, or is it conjecture based on assuming rational behavior and working backwards to come up with the most plausible explanation? Occam's razor still says to me that Zuckerberg just personally finds VR really cool and compelling, and decided to point his money-printing machine in its direction. Kinda like Musk and space or the Kochs and preventing local investment in public transit. I really do think he just thinks it's neat.

karmakaze 1y ago

This is why I believe Valve will win the space regardless of how slow they move. Meta's desire for VR/AR is incidendal, primary is 'the platform' they'll own and so it will never be as good as someone making it as a primary goal. Same goes for Apple's Vision Pro/Air who's reluctant to even call things VR or AR--I wonder what they'll call the games, experience apps?