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> So was Roman incompetent or just kissing ass hoping to become the President of Finance Why do you think Apple sent the Vice President to such a high visibili

> So was Roman incompetent or just kissing ass hoping to become the President of Finance Why do you think Apple sent the Vice President to such a high visibility trial and not the President, who is the person with the ultimate authority and accountability in Finance? In any large enough organization (and I haven't stumbled on one where this wasn't the case), private or public, the people at the top are shielded by a "second in command" whose job is to take the hit if needed, with the promise that they're next in line for the big position. It's a requirement of the job, they do it and maybe get rewarded, or don't and absolutely get ejected. Sometimes it pays off and they get the coveted president, CEO, etc. position. Sometimes it doesn't and they go to prison or their career is completely derailed. Survivorship bias says we only see the ones who managed to pull it off. If you look at any large company's CEO now, they're there because they took these hits or provided plausible deniability for the big boss in the past.

ilogik 1y ago
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- dredmorbius 1y ago
  <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42616706 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42616706>
lebed2045 1y ago
Could you please provide any proof for: “if you look at any large company’s CEO, they’re there because they took these hits or provided plausible deniability for jig boss in the past”. Never thought from this angle, interesting theory
- buran77 1y ago
  Are you asking if any company, institution, or political party documented asking their subordinates to commit illegal acts in order to provide cover for the head honchos? Generally no but when you look into scandals like Dieselgate, Enron, Lehman Brothers and others you'll see a pattern of lower level employees being pressured to sign off on misleading documents that the higher ups could just sell as "real". Work in any company or institution above a certain level and you'll see it every day. It's a test for loyalty, it's a way to select a successor, and very importantly a way to subsequently guarantee that loyalty and keep the ambitious deputies in check. Every large organization is a pyramid scheme of avoiding accountability and passing it on to the lower level.

ilogik 1y ago

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dredmorbius 1y ago
<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42616706 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42616706>

lebed2045 1y ago

Could you please provide any proof for: “if you look at any large company’s CEO, they’re there because they took these hits or provided plausible deniability for jig boss in the past”. Never thought from this angle, interesting theory

buran77 1y ago
Are you asking if any company, institution, or political party documented asking their subordinates to commit illegal acts in order to provide cover for the head honchos? Generally no but when you look into scandals like Dieselgate, Enron, Lehman Brothers and others you'll see a pattern of lower level employees being pressured to sign off on misleading documents that the higher ups could just sell as "real". Work in any company or institution above a certain level and you'll see it every day. It's a test for loyalty, it's a way to select a successor, and very importantly a way to subsequently guarantee that loyalty and keep the ambitious deputies in check. Every large organization is a pyramid scheme of avoiding accountability and passing it on to the lower level.