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Comparing Bada to WP is apples to oranges. Bada is not a smartphone OS and many (most?) Bada handsets are sold at a fraction of the price of any WP handset. Sym

by lrei 14y ago

Comparing Bada to WP is apples to oranges. Bada is not a smartphone OS and many (most?) Bada handsets are sold at a fraction of the price of any WP handset. Symbian is a better comparison for Bada and it probably still dwarfs it in terms of market share. As for App devs, native development for Bada is a massive headache that bears no comparison to WP, iOS or even android. From SDK bugs to Store bugs. And even when using web technologies (phonegap or pure web app), their webkit based browser isn't up to Safari/Chrome standards. Plus the low end devices have (had?) slow processors which make a lot of the fancier CSS stuff unusable. On top of that, how many people will even know and use the bada app store? Oh and nowhere in that mini-article is it mentioned that Bada will probably-maybe be replaced by another OS, Tizen.

rbanffy 14y ago
> Oh and nowhere in that mini-article is it mentioned that Bada will probably-maybe be replaced by another OS, Tizen. Not much of a problem. Tizen will be able to run the Bada application layer.
- lrei 14y ago
  I didn't know that - I haven't been keeping up with Tizen. But I did read that tizen would also run android applications.
  - rbanffy 14y ago
    Shouldn't be hard. With a little effort, it could also run WebOS applications. All three have lots of code in common.
  - Zigurd 14y ago
    I don't think the Bada -> Tizen transition is official yet, but Bada had a Linux-based road map, and Tizen would work on the kind of hardware to which feature phones are transitioning. As for it being an invalid or unfair comparison with Windows Phone, you have to take into account that the feature phone business is overall in steep decline. What might be called a "feature phone" in the future is likely to be indistinguishable from a low end smartphone. The difference will be that the feature phone's ecosystem is more-captive to the carrier's ecosystem, and that will support lower initial costs.
    - lrei 14y ago
      I believe that eventually feature phones will be replaced by smartphones. Do you believe that Bada will be a smartphone OS comparable to Android/iOS/WP in the sense that people looking to buy a smartphone will buy a Bada-based one instead of one that's WP (or iOS/Android) based? I don't believe that. If people simply want the phone with the best camera than it wont matter if it's Bada or Android or WP. But if people expect to run apps/games on it than it will matter. Bada's "growth" is simply due to Samsung replacing their previous feature phone OS with Bada. Even if the overall market is in decline, Bada's share of it will increase as Samsung adopts it in more of their models.
      - Zigurd 14y ago
        I think there will be a class of phones that do almost all of the things a smartphone like an iOS or Android phone do, but that have an app and content ecosystem where more of the revenue goes to the carrier.

by lrei 14y ago

rbanffy 14y ago

> Oh and nowhere in that mini-article is it mentioned that Bada will probably-maybe be replaced by another OS, Tizen. Not much of a problem. Tizen will be able to run the Bada application layer.

lrei 14y ago
I didn't know that - I haven't been keeping up with Tizen. But I did read that tizen would also run android applications.
- rbanffy 14y ago
  Shouldn't be hard. With a little effort, it could also run WebOS applications. All three have lots of code in common.
- Zigurd 14y ago
  I don't think the Bada -> Tizen transition is official yet, but Bada had a Linux-based road map, and Tizen would work on the kind of hardware to which feature phones are transitioning. As for it being an invalid or unfair comparison with Windows Phone, you have to take into account that the feature phone business is overall in steep decline. What might be called a "feature phone" in the future is likely to be indistinguishable from a low end smartphone. The difference will be that the feature phone's ecosystem is more-captive to the carrier's ecosystem, and that will support lower initial costs.
  - lrei 14y ago
    I believe that eventually feature phones will be replaced by smartphones. Do you believe that Bada will be a smartphone OS comparable to Android/iOS/WP in the sense that people looking to buy a smartphone will buy a Bada-based one instead of one that's WP (or iOS/Android) based? I don't believe that. If people simply want the phone with the best camera than it wont matter if it's Bada or Android or WP. But if people expect to run apps/games on it than it will matter. Bada's "growth" is simply due to Samsung replacing their previous feature phone OS with Bada. Even if the overall market is in decline, Bada's share of it will increase as Samsung adopts it in more of their models.
    - Zigurd 14y ago
      I think there will be a class of phones that do almost all of the things a smartphone like an iOS or Android phone do, but that have an app and content ecosystem where more of the revenue goes to the carrier.