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So someone who has never owned an Apple device makes an analysis on whether new Apple devices are being innovative. ok. IMO the MBP's retina display is a game

by DeepDuh 14y ago

So someone who has never owned an Apple device makes an analysis on whether new Apple devices are being innovative. ok. IMO the MBP's retina display is a game changer for professionals who need to be mobile. Once you use it you can't go back - and there is no PC laptop in sight giving you that kind of resolution. But probably the number one reason why mac users are caught up in the ecosystem? The touchpads. And this is something the author can't possibly understand. Testing it in the apple store is not enough to realize that this is how a laptop interface should work and that no other manufacturer has been able to match it.

chestercheetaz 14y ago
yeah, for real... "Right, let's get this out the way up front: I don't personally own a single Apple device. I use them a fair bit at work, but I've never actually handed over any cash for one." So, let me get this right. YOU are a boring tech user, who barely uses any Apple devices (I'm assuming by "use them a fair bit at work" the author means he has a MBP or MB-Air, or better yet probably an iMac, that his company gives him to use). And HE's the guy asserting that Apple is in danger of becoming boring?? right... No buddy, it's you and your writing that are boring. Next time at least gather enough first-hand data to draw a valid conclusion. Conjectured drivel.
peapicker 14y ago
My reaction exactly. It took me months after owning my first mac (an Intel Mini, just to try it out) when I realized how much I enjoyed it simply because it didn't get in the way of me working on what I really wanted to; complaints I've had as a user about Linux and Windows over the years (I still use those latter to at work, but really, the mac is my preferred place to live because using it is just so nice). Mostly I'm writing C, Java, and Python code. Since then, I've picked up two more mac devices, and sundry other apple bits. They just work. Makes me happy to get to not manage that stuff and to be able to work on the really important stuff.
sin7 14y ago
I don't understand why people need such high resolution. Most people don't have the eye sight to see the difference.
- lancefisher 14y ago
  You can see the difference. The end-goal for display resolution is that the pixels are so small you can't see them or, more importantly, the effect they have on rendering curves. Fonts have been designed just for the screen because the curves of normal good-looking fonts didn't fit into the pixel grid and didn't look good. With very-high resolution displays we can start using good fonts on the screen.
- cwe 14y ago
  I don't understand why people need color monitors.
rednukleus 14y ago
> there is no PC laptop in sight giving you that kind of resolution There will be plenty when Windows 8 comes out. > And this is something the author can't possibly understand. If you don't like gestures, you will be totally unimpressed by the mac touchpad. The author may be in that category.
- DeepDuh 14y ago
  i'm not even talking about gestures. Let me see you getting used to fluid two finger scrolling and the preciseness of those pads and the go back to a small asus or whatever touchpad with scroll area on the side.
  - sin7 14y ago
    I know that feeling. I was cruising along in my brand new BMW. Missed a couple of payments and I had to go back to my Honda Civic. It must be just like that. Most people that I know use a mouse, which has better scrolling and is much more precise.
    - DeepDuh 14y ago
      Let me guess: Most people you know -that have a PC- use a mouse. On macs, many people even prefer a touchpad on their desktop iMac. And that's not because of Apple's ridiculously bad mouses, most people know that they can connect any logitech.
      - rednukleus 14y ago
        > I'm not even talking about gestures. Let me see you getting used to fluid two finger scrolling I call two finger scrolling a gesture. Most mac users I know don't know any gestures at all, they just use it like a PC trackpad. For me, I immediately turn off all gestures as soon as I buy a new laptop. They are just more trouble than they are worth in my opinion. I've tried them - they just get in the way. I also know people that swear by gestures and the macbook touchpad - and for them the mac is a good choice. For the rest of us, it's just a slightly bigger touchpad with hidden mousebuttons (another thing that makes macs difficult to use for beginners).

by DeepDuh 14y ago

chestercheetaz 14y ago

yeah, for real... "Right, let's get this out the way up front: I don't personally own a single Apple device. I use them a fair bit at work, but I've never actually handed over any cash for one." So, let me get this right. YOU are a boring tech user, who barely uses any Apple devices (I'm assuming by "use them a fair bit at work" the author means he has a MBP or MB-Air, or better yet probably an iMac, that his company gives him to use). And HE's the guy asserting that Apple is in danger of becoming boring?? right... No buddy, it's you and your writing that are boring. Next time at least gather enough first-hand data to draw a valid conclusion. Conjectured drivel.

peapicker 14y ago

My reaction exactly. It took me months after owning my first mac (an Intel Mini, just to try it out) when I realized how much I enjoyed it simply because it didn't get in the way of me working on what I really wanted to; complaints I've had as a user about Linux and Windows over the years (I still use those latter to at work, but really, the mac is my preferred place to live because using it is just so nice). Mostly I'm writing C, Java, and Python code. Since then, I've picked up two more mac devices, and sundry other apple bits. They just work. Makes me happy to get to not manage that stuff and to be able to work on the really important stuff.

sin7 14y ago

I don't understand why people need such high resolution. Most people don't have the eye sight to see the difference.

lancefisher 14y ago
You can see the difference. The end-goal for display resolution is that the pixels are so small you can't see them or, more importantly, the effect they have on rendering curves. Fonts have been designed just for the screen because the curves of normal good-looking fonts didn't fit into the pixel grid and didn't look good. With very-high resolution displays we can start using good fonts on the screen.
cwe 14y ago
I don't understand why people need color monitors.

rednukleus 14y ago

> there is no PC laptop in sight giving you that kind of resolution There will be plenty when Windows 8 comes out. > And this is something the author can't possibly understand. If you don't like gestures, you will be totally unimpressed by the mac touchpad. The author may be in that category.

DeepDuh 14y ago
i'm not even talking about gestures. Let me see you getting used to fluid two finger scrolling and the preciseness of those pads and the go back to a small asus or whatever touchpad with scroll area on the side.
- sin7 14y ago
  I know that feeling. I was cruising along in my brand new BMW. Missed a couple of payments and I had to go back to my Honda Civic. It must be just like that. Most people that I know use a mouse, which has better scrolling and is much more precise.
  - DeepDuh 14y ago
    Let me guess: Most people you know -that have a PC- use a mouse. On macs, many people even prefer a touchpad on their desktop iMac. And that's not because of Apple's ridiculously bad mouses, most people know that they can connect any logitech.
    - rednukleus 14y ago
      > I'm not even talking about gestures. Let me see you getting used to fluid two finger scrolling I call two finger scrolling a gesture. Most mac users I know don't know any gestures at all, they just use it like a PC trackpad. For me, I immediately turn off all gestures as soon as I buy a new laptop. They are just more trouble than they are worth in my opinion. I've tried them - they just get in the way. I also know people that swear by gestures and the macbook touchpad - and for them the mac is a good choice. For the rest of us, it's just a slightly bigger touchpad with hidden mousebuttons (another thing that makes macs difficult to use for beginners).