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Human drivers have dash cams, too. Maybe without as sophisticated a data ingestion system as google, but they could theoretically put their dashcam footage on y

Human drivers have dash cams, too. Maybe without as sophisticated a data ingestion system as google, but they could theoretically put their dashcam footage on youtube if they wanted to.

Lammy 1y ago
I will be sure to think of that the next time I see a human driver whose car has 29 dash cams, 5 lidars, 4 radars, and is using four H100s to process all of its realtime images of me: https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/2024/10/27/waymos-5-6-billion-round-and-details-of-the-ai-used/ https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/2024/10/27/waymos-5-6...
- XorNot 1y ago
  What is someone doing with all that which they can't do with front and back dashcams?
  - sokoloff 1y ago
    Correlation of data across time and other cars in the fleet.
- Manuel_D 1y ago
  A ring camera can do image recognition and store durations of video where a person is in frame. I'm not sure what the privacy difference is between these two. Is lidar and radar recording that much more of a privacy concern than video recording. I'm pretty sure between traffic cameras and security cameras lots of commuters on th street are being filmed. With or without Waymos
  - BobaFloutist 1y ago
    Frankly I'm not ok with Ring cameras with a field of view extending past the property line either
- rpastuszak 1y ago
  Yeah, I mean it’s apples and a two trillion dollar adtech business. I don’t understand why so many comments here are missing the context
SequoiaHope 1y ago
What bothers me regarding surveillance and self driving cars is that an executive sympathetic to the surveillance state could build a system that allows arbitrary surveillance of vehicles or housing by license plate or location. Eric Schmidt was a regular visitor of The Pentagon and Billionaires simply live in a different world than we do. So while some driver could happen to capture me and upload it to YouTube, Waymo could, if someone wanted, have a secret operations center which allows surveillance of all sorts of people, locations, and vehicles. The same way that AT&T had a secret NSA closet that split off major fiber pipes, some data pipeline could have an invisible filter that duplicates data matching certain variables and delivers it to a surveillance partner.
- tigroferoce 1y ago
  Wouldn't that would imply that Silicon Valley companies collude with governments? That's simply impossib ... oh, wait ...

Human drivers have dash cams, too. Maybe without as sophisticated a data ingestion system as google, but they could theoretically put their dashcam footage on youtube if they wanted to.

Lammy 1y ago

I will be sure to think of that the next time I see a human driver whose car has 29 dash cams, 5 lidars, 4 radars, and is using four H100s to process all of its realtime images of me: https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/2024/10/27/waymos-5-6-billion-round-and-details-of-the-ai-used/ https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/2024/10/27/waymos-5-6...

XorNot 1y ago
What is someone doing with all that which they can't do with front and back dashcams?
- sokoloff 1y ago
  Correlation of data across time and other cars in the fleet.
Manuel_D 1y ago
A ring camera can do image recognition and store durations of video where a person is in frame. I'm not sure what the privacy difference is between these two. Is lidar and radar recording that much more of a privacy concern than video recording. I'm pretty sure between traffic cameras and security cameras lots of commuters on th street are being filmed. With or without Waymos
- BobaFloutist 1y ago
  Frankly I'm not ok with Ring cameras with a field of view extending past the property line either
rpastuszak 1y ago
Yeah, I mean it’s apples and a two trillion dollar adtech business. I don’t understand why so many comments here are missing the context

SequoiaHope 1y ago

What bothers me regarding surveillance and self driving cars is that an executive sympathetic to the surveillance state could build a system that allows arbitrary surveillance of vehicles or housing by license plate or location. Eric Schmidt was a regular visitor of The Pentagon and Billionaires simply live in a different world than we do. So while some driver could happen to capture me and upload it to YouTube, Waymo could, if someone wanted, have a secret operations center which allows surveillance of all sorts of people, locations, and vehicles. The same way that AT&T had a secret NSA closet that split off major fiber pipes, some data pipeline could have an invisible filter that duplicates data matching certain variables and delivers it to a surveillance partner.

tigroferoce 1y ago
Wouldn't that would imply that Silicon Valley companies collude with governments? That's simply impossib ... oh, wait ...