> With the possible exception of 'vandalism', none of the offenses for which it may be applied [1] have any impact on visitors perception of cleanliness, that w

> With the possible exception of 'vandalism', none of the offenses for which it may be applied [1] have any impact on visitors perception of cleanliness, that was my "argument" (although I don't think my comment merits the term). Fair enough. Agreed, with the only exception being that I would also add drug abuse to the list. Look, I am not some anti-drug puritan at all. But I would argue that people injecting in the middle of a busy street intersection are definitely gonna have an impact on visitors’ perception of cleanliness. Besides observing exactly this many times over the years I spent living in Seattle (as well as many adjacent scenarios, like the usual drugged out people attacking passerbys), it was also the first time I actually saw a dead body being carried away in a bodybag by EMTs/firemen. Saying that this won’t have effect on the visitors, but vandalism would, just feels wrong.