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Commute time still matters, and congestion pricing will become the norm. I can read on the subway, but while a 20 min subway ride is fine, an hour each way is

Commute time still matters, and congestion pricing will become the norm. I can read on the subway, but while a 20 min subway ride is fine, an hour each way is still a lot, and a two hour train commute just doesn't leave much time in your life for doing social things. Also, I think there's going to be a huge surge in in-demand AI buses. Rideshares will take people to a random spot, you'll wait 2 minutes for a predetermined seat on a specific bus, and then switch to a rideshare van for the last 5 minute drive to your office in the city. It's just going to be so much cheaper. With economies of scale and urban congestion pricing, you'll have to choose between dropping $45 on a dedicated hour-long door-to-door car trip, or $6 for the car-bus-van version which is only 20% slower anyways.

hn_acc1 2y ago
You've clearly never been to the US.. Late-stage capitalism will find ways to make it cost exactly as much as driving your own car. OTOH, if I'm in a decent-sized car (minivan?) for 45 minutes+, I can get work done. I can then stay less time at work.
- crazygringo 2y ago
  > You've clearly never been to the US. You're clearly wrong. > Late-stage capitalism will find ways to make it cost exactly as much as driving your own car. Late-stage capitalism is a defunct theory based on Marxism. Real, actual capitalism results in competition which drives prices down, as long as there are two or more competitors and antitrust law is enforced. Which is generally the case. And in the case of monopolies like city buses, cities set prices directly in response to democratic pressure. By your argument, NYC subways ought to be $25 a ride... but they aren't.
  - anonymars 2y ago
    > Real, actual capitalism results in competition which drives prices down, as long as there are two or more competitors and antitrust law is enforced. I generally agree with you here, (though it's a bit simplistic for things not directly related to price: for example good luck avoiding arbitration clauses) > Which is generally the case. Now our opinions differ. Lina Khan was an exception, and I certainly can't imagine the current regime standing up against money. Some recent(ish) ones I think have been less than great for competition HBO / Discovery? Facebook/Instagram/Whatsapp? LiveNation / Ticketmaster? Disney / Fox? Charter / Time Warner Cable? AT&T / Time Warner? CBS / Viacom? Comcast / NBC? JP Morgan / Chase? CVS / Aetna? Cigna / Express Scripts? Sinclair Media
whimsicalism 2y ago
> congestion pricing will become the norm. not with the current set of voters it wont

hn_acc1 2y ago

You've clearly never been to the US.. Late-stage capitalism will find ways to make it cost exactly as much as driving your own car. OTOH, if I'm in a decent-sized car (minivan?) for 45 minutes+, I can get work done. I can then stay less time at work.

crazygringo 2y ago
> You've clearly never been to the US. You're clearly wrong. > Late-stage capitalism will find ways to make it cost exactly as much as driving your own car. Late-stage capitalism is a defunct theory based on Marxism. Real, actual capitalism results in competition which drives prices down, as long as there are two or more competitors and antitrust law is enforced. Which is generally the case. And in the case of monopolies like city buses, cities set prices directly in response to democratic pressure. By your argument, NYC subways ought to be $25 a ride... but they aren't.
- anonymars 2y ago
  > Real, actual capitalism results in competition which drives prices down, as long as there are two or more competitors and antitrust law is enforced. I generally agree with you here, (though it's a bit simplistic for things not directly related to price: for example good luck avoiding arbitration clauses) > Which is generally the case. Now our opinions differ. Lina Khan was an exception, and I certainly can't imagine the current regime standing up against money. Some recent(ish) ones I think have been less than great for competition HBO / Discovery? Facebook/Instagram/Whatsapp? LiveNation / Ticketmaster? Disney / Fox? Charter / Time Warner Cable? AT&T / Time Warner? CBS / Viacom? Comcast / NBC? JP Morgan / Chase? CVS / Aetna? Cigna / Express Scripts? Sinclair Media

whimsicalism 2y ago

> congestion pricing will become the norm. not with the current set of voters it wont