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It's rare that I come across a story about some questionable ethics in black hat tech and don't have some sympathy for the perpetrator. But this is not that. T

by tcdent 1y ago

It's rare that I come across a story about some questionable ethics in black hat tech and don't have some sympathy for the perpetrator. But this is not that. This is blatant treason.

ceejayoz 1y ago
It's run-of-the-mill organized crime that happens to benefit a shitty regime. We didn't even charge Soviet spies with treason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen
toast0 1y ago
It's not levying war against the United States. I don't know what the legal definition of Enemies is, but I would imagine it would involve a declaration of war. The Korean war was never formally resolved, but the US hasn't declared war since WWII. There's also no indication of adherence here. Doing things that benefit a country and a leader that your government officically doesn't care for can be all shades of prohibited and illegal, but it's not treason.
- mtVessel 1y ago
  | I don't know what the legal definition of Enemies is, but I would imagine it would involve a declaration of war. These days, some vague tattoos will do it.
- jcranmer 1y ago
  No one has been convicted of treason since WWII. One person has been charged with treason, but they were remote-murdered by the US government before they were tried, and it's not at all clear that a conviction would have withstood appeal. Note that Congress did expressly pass a resolution in the Global War on Terror that can be construed as declaring war on terrorists; if anything short of outright declaration of war qualifies as a foreign entity as an "enemy" for the purposes of the treason declaration, that is it.
netsharc 1y ago
Eh, if your president and his stinky regime does it... Brandeis wrote about how a lawbreaking government breeds contempt for the law and invites every man to be a lawbreaker by in 1928, but since then women have gained more rights: https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1062178 https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1062178

by tcdent 1y ago

It's rare that I come across a story about some questionable ethics in black hat tech and don't have some sympathy for the perpetrator. But this is not that. This is blatant treason.

ceejayoz 1y ago

It's run-of-the-mill organized crime that happens to benefit a shitty regime. We didn't even charge Soviet spies with treason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen

toast0 1y ago

It's not levying war against the United States. I don't know what the legal definition of Enemies is, but I would imagine it would involve a declaration of war. The Korean war was never formally resolved, but the US hasn't declared war since WWII. There's also no indication of adherence here. Doing things that benefit a country and a leader that your government officically doesn't care for can be all shades of prohibited and illegal, but it's not treason.

mtVessel 1y ago
| I don't know what the legal definition of Enemies is, but I would imagine it would involve a declaration of war. These days, some vague tattoos will do it.
jcranmer 1y ago
No one has been convicted of treason since WWII. One person has been charged with treason, but they were remote-murdered by the US government before they were tried, and it's not at all clear that a conviction would have withstood appeal. Note that Congress did expressly pass a resolution in the Global War on Terror that can be construed as declaring war on terrorists; if anything short of outright declaration of war qualifies as a foreign entity as an "enemy" for the purposes of the treason declaration, that is it.

netsharc 1y ago

Eh, if your president and his stinky regime does it... Brandeis wrote about how a lawbreaking government breeds contempt for the law and invites every man to be a lawbreaker by in 1928, but since then women have gained more rights: https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1062178 https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1062178