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>But there's no shortage of neutral countries and journalists to sort fact from fiction Sure. Have you heard about Gonzalo Lira? [0] He was arrested by Ukraini

>But there's no shortage of neutral countries and journalists to sort fact from fiction Sure. Have you heard about Gonzalo Lira? [0] He was arrested by Ukrainian security services and died in prison. Apparently, sorting facts from fiction isn't safe thing to do in the Ukraine. >most of which perpetrated by your country What made you think that? Articles like this one? That is their purpose. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalo_Lira https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalo_Lira

fodmap 1y ago
Gonzalo Lira, a guy helping the Russian invader to commit their crimes. That's the guy you're talking about. And you try to use him as an example?
cosmicgadget 1y ago
I have heard of Gonzalo Lira, in fact. I did not realize his arrest somehow absolves your country of its many crimes in this war. Was that the point you were trying to make? Because it's a bad one. No one here has said or implied that anyone in this conflict is pure. But the disparity in war crimes is very large and heavily against your country.
- drysine 1y ago
  >But the disparity in war crimes is very large and heavily against your country. What made you think that?
  - fodmap 1y ago
    Don't you know the history of Russia? It doesn't matter Imperial Russia, Soviet Russia, or Putin's Russia. Always abusive, violent and against Humanity. Ask the people of Georgia, Syria, Ukraine, or all those countries in the Sahel Belt if you want a first hand testimony.
    - alganet 1y ago
      Are we doing "who's the most oppressive?". These kinds of arguments always end up in some sort of historic "who is the baddest baddie". Thanks Russia and USA. It's all about you two. All roads lead to the cold war. Current wars and small state sovereignty? How hilarious. Just mere fading pages in the big book to serve as examples of oppression.
      - fodmap 1y ago
        The original question is 'between Russia and Ukraine'. I'm answering that.
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    BBC, NPR, Al Jazeera, Yevgeny Prigozhin... it is a pretty long list. Even your boy heavily implies what he is okay doing with his own rhetoric, to say nothing for what his proxies (like Lavrov and Dugin) say. I imagine you see cruise missiles hitting childrens hospitals and say, "false flag". I hope you're a paid propagandist and not an honest believer that Russia is somehow right here.
    - drysine 1y ago
      >I imagine you see cruise missiles hitting childrens hospitals and say, "false flag". I'd say that there was a military target nearby and the missile missed it. Now what do you say when you see low precision MLRS rockets, launched by Ukrainians, hitting city center, wounded Russian women screaming and thrashing in agony and one of the top Ukrainian propagandists reposting the video with the caption "Happy New Year, Bitches"? [0] [0] https://t.me/dmytrogordon_official/39688 https://t.me/dmytrogordon_official/39688
      - fodmap 1y ago
        Get out of Ukraine. Stop invading countries. See? That's easy.
      - cosmicgadget 1y ago
        Do you think there is evidence of your country waging a terror campaign against Ukraine in order to break their will to resist the invasion? You are welcome to continue pointing out single instances of Ukraine "doing the same thing". They will continue to be irrelevant because at no point did I say Ukraine was above reproach. The disparity in war crimes I mentioned above is characterized by number, severity, and intention.
        drysine 1y ago
        >The disparity in war crimes I mentioned above is characterized by number, severity, and intention. As reported by Western media which is known for its honesty and objectivity.

fodmap 1y ago

Gonzalo Lira, a guy helping the Russian invader to commit their crimes. That's the guy you're talking about. And you try to use him as an example?

cosmicgadget 1y ago

I have heard of Gonzalo Lira, in fact. I did not realize his arrest somehow absolves your country of its many crimes in this war. Was that the point you were trying to make? Because it's a bad one. No one here has said or implied that anyone in this conflict is pure. But the disparity in war crimes is very large and heavily against your country.

drysine 1y ago
>But the disparity in war crimes is very large and heavily against your country. What made you think that?
- fodmap 1y ago
  Don't you know the history of Russia? It doesn't matter Imperial Russia, Soviet Russia, or Putin's Russia. Always abusive, violent and against Humanity. Ask the people of Georgia, Syria, Ukraine, or all those countries in the Sahel Belt if you want a first hand testimony.
  - alganet 1y ago
    Are we doing "who's the most oppressive?". These kinds of arguments always end up in some sort of historic "who is the baddest baddie". Thanks Russia and USA. It's all about you two. All roads lead to the cold war. Current wars and small state sovereignty? How hilarious. Just mere fading pages in the big book to serve as examples of oppression.
    - fodmap 1y ago
      The original question is 'between Russia and Ukraine'. I'm answering that.
- cosmicgadget 1y ago
  BBC, NPR, Al Jazeera, Yevgeny Prigozhin... it is a pretty long list. Even your boy heavily implies what he is okay doing with his own rhetoric, to say nothing for what his proxies (like Lavrov and Dugin) say. I imagine you see cruise missiles hitting childrens hospitals and say, "false flag". I hope you're a paid propagandist and not an honest believer that Russia is somehow right here.
  - drysine 1y ago
    >I imagine you see cruise missiles hitting childrens hospitals and say, "false flag". I'd say that there was a military target nearby and the missile missed it. Now what do you say when you see low precision MLRS rockets, launched by Ukrainians, hitting city center, wounded Russian women screaming and thrashing in agony and one of the top Ukrainian propagandists reposting the video with the caption "Happy New Year, Bitches"? [0] [0] https://t.me/dmytrogordon_official/39688 https://t.me/dmytrogordon_official/39688
    - fodmap 1y ago
      Get out of Ukraine. Stop invading countries. See? That's easy.
    - cosmicgadget 1y ago
      Do you think there is evidence of your country waging a terror campaign against Ukraine in order to break their will to resist the invasion? You are welcome to continue pointing out single instances of Ukraine "doing the same thing". They will continue to be irrelevant because at no point did I say Ukraine was above reproach. The disparity in war crimes I mentioned above is characterized by number, severity, and intention.
      - drysine 1y ago
        >The disparity in war crimes I mentioned above is characterized by number, severity, and intention. As reported by Western media which is known for its honesty and objectivity.