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AWS and GCP offer valkey-based versions of products that are typically based on Redis, but those versions are currently, generally, preview-grade, and statistic

by kiitos 1y ago

AWS and GCP offer valkey-based versions of products that are typically based on Redis, but those versions are currently, generally, preview-grade, and statistically zero customers are using them. They still offer the original, Redis-based versions of those products, which, statistically, 100% of their customers are using.

reconditerose 1y ago
Do you have data to back up your claims? I see a lot of customer claims for Valkey here, https://aws.amazon.com/elasticache/customers/ https://aws.amazon.com/elasticache/customers/. Neither of the AWS or GCP offerings are in preview.
ziddoap 1y ago
>and statistically zero customers are using them You've said this twice now, but not provided any data or even a hand-wave to a possible source so that others could go get the data and look at it. If it's statistically something, where are the stats?
- kiitos 1y ago
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  - ziddoap 1y ago
    >My claim that statistically zero (cloud provider) customers are using valkey should, I sincerely hope, be self-evident. I have no idea what the actual stats are. But no, I don't find your "statistically 0%" to be self-evident, especially in light of the other comments and links in this thread, and what I've heard elsewhere. I was hoping, since you presented it so confidently, that you had something more than "trust me". In another comment you say you have evidence of marketshare, maybe you could post that?
    - joshstrange 1y ago
      Their stats are "I asked an LLM", no, that's not joke, see this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43860256 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43860256
      - kiitos 1y ago
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        ziddoap 1y ago
        If your stats aren't from "trust me" or an LLM, can you please just post where you are getting your market share stats from?
        skywhopper 1y ago
        But if that’s your typical method of research, I have bad news for you about the quality of the statistics you’re relying on.
  - AustinWentz 1y ago
    >Nobody has performed any kind of automatic or default transition from Redis to valkey for existing customers. >My claim that statistically zero (cloud provider) customers are using valkey should, I sincerely hope, be self-evident. This is simply not true. For example, Aiven (a cloud provider) completely ended support for Redis at the end of March and migrated existing users to Valkey. https://aiven.io/docs/platform/reference/end-of-life#aiven-for-caching https://aiven.io/docs/platform/reference/end-of-life#aiven-f...
  - kevinsf90 1y ago
    I recently moved on to a new company, but my prior company had a pretty large scale Elasticache Redis deployment in production (over 50 large clusters in us-east-1), and were in the middle of a complete migration to Valkey due cost savings, improved performance, and reduction in memory usage. We've already completed migrating several large production clusters and I can confidently say that the migration had been pretty smooth and seamless. Valkey is certainly production ready (at least on AWS it is). The team is looking forward to expedite and complete the migration

by kiitos 1y ago

reconditerose 1y ago

Do you have data to back up your claims? I see a lot of customer claims for Valkey here, https://aws.amazon.com/elasticache/customers/ https://aws.amazon.com/elasticache/customers/. Neither of the AWS or GCP offerings are in preview.

ziddoap 1y ago

>and statistically zero customers are using them You've said this twice now, but not provided any data or even a hand-wave to a possible source so that others could go get the data and look at it. If it's statistically something, where are the stats?

kiitos 1y ago
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- ziddoap 1y ago
  >My claim that statistically zero (cloud provider) customers are using valkey should, I sincerely hope, be self-evident. I have no idea what the actual stats are. But no, I don't find your "statistically 0%" to be self-evident, especially in light of the other comments and links in this thread, and what I've heard elsewhere. I was hoping, since you presented it so confidently, that you had something more than "trust me". In another comment you say you have evidence of marketshare, maybe you could post that?
  - joshstrange 1y ago
    Their stats are "I asked an LLM", no, that's not joke, see this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43860256 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43860256
    - kiitos 1y ago
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      - ziddoap 1y ago
        If your stats aren't from "trust me" or an LLM, can you please just post where you are getting your market share stats from?
      - skywhopper 1y ago
        But if that’s your typical method of research, I have bad news for you about the quality of the statistics you’re relying on.
- AustinWentz 1y ago
  >Nobody has performed any kind of automatic or default transition from Redis to valkey for existing customers. >My claim that statistically zero (cloud provider) customers are using valkey should, I sincerely hope, be self-evident. This is simply not true. For example, Aiven (a cloud provider) completely ended support for Redis at the end of March and migrated existing users to Valkey. https://aiven.io/docs/platform/reference/end-of-life#aiven-for-caching https://aiven.io/docs/platform/reference/end-of-life#aiven-f...
- kevinsf90 1y ago
  I recently moved on to a new company, but my prior company had a pretty large scale Elasticache Redis deployment in production (over 50 large clusters in us-east-1), and were in the middle of a complete migration to Valkey due cost savings, improved performance, and reduction in memory usage. We've already completed migrating several large production clusters and I can confidently say that the migration had been pretty smooth and seamless. Valkey is certainly production ready (at least on AWS it is). The team is looking forward to expedite and complete the migration