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Are there usage stats available? How do you know this?

by echoangle 1y ago

potatocoffee 1y ago
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Osiris 1y ago
My guess is most people are using Redis via cloud providers. Did any cloud providers switch away from Redis?
- andenacitelli 1y ago
  AWS supports Valkey for Elasticache, and they actually bill it 33% cheaper. We use it and it works well.
- pjm331 1y ago
  AWS Elasticache gave a nice discount to switch to valkey w/ 1 button click no downtime migration path
- aweiher 1y ago
  ValKey is cheaper in AWS than Reddis
- echoangle 1y ago
  Wasn’t the whole point (or one of the major ones) of Valkey so that AWS could use it?
reconditerose 1y ago
My guess is they are making it up. AWS has no public information, but there are some high profile customers that have migrated https://aws.amazon.com/elasticache/customers/ https://aws.amazon.com/elasticache/customers/.
shaky-carrousel 1y ago
Without sources, it's a "statistically worthless" comment :)
achillean 1y ago
Based on Internet-accessible services the number of Valkey servers is low (~120): https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=valkey_version+port%3A6379#overview https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=valkey_version+port%3A... Here's a chart of all Redis-compatible services (~55,000): https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=port%3A6379+redis_version#overview https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=port%3A6379+redis_vers...
- echoangle 1y ago
  And how representative are publicly accessible redis/valkey instances for redis/valkey usage in general? And can shodan even differentiate Redis from a Valkey instance setup in a backwards-compatible way without being able to authenticate?
  - achillean 1y ago
    In absolute numbers probably not highly representative but the relative numbers are meaningful to measure adoption. And no, it requires the user to disable authentication in order to get the service details to differentiate between Redis and Valkey. But again, you can compare unauthenticated Redis to unauthenticated Valkey to see how the percentages are changing over time.

Are there usage stats available? How do you know this?

potatocoffee 1y ago

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Osiris 1y ago

My guess is most people are using Redis via cloud providers. Did any cloud providers switch away from Redis?

andenacitelli 1y ago
AWS supports Valkey for Elasticache, and they actually bill it 33% cheaper. We use it and it works well.
pjm331 1y ago
AWS Elasticache gave a nice discount to switch to valkey w/ 1 button click no downtime migration path
aweiher 1y ago
ValKey is cheaper in AWS than Reddis
echoangle 1y ago
Wasn’t the whole point (or one of the major ones) of Valkey so that AWS could use it?

reconditerose 1y ago

My guess is they are making it up. AWS has no public information, but there are some high profile customers that have migrated https://aws.amazon.com/elasticache/customers/ https://aws.amazon.com/elasticache/customers/.

shaky-carrousel 1y ago

Without sources, it's a "statistically worthless" comment :)

achillean 1y ago

Based on Internet-accessible services the number of Valkey servers is low (~120): https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=valkey_version+port%3A6379#overview https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=valkey_version+port%3A... Here's a chart of all Redis-compatible services (~55,000): https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=port%3A6379+redis_version#overview https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=port%3A6379+redis_vers...

echoangle 1y ago
And how representative are publicly accessible redis/valkey instances for redis/valkey usage in general? And can shodan even differentiate Redis from a Valkey instance setup in a backwards-compatible way without being able to authenticate?
- achillean 1y ago
  In absolute numbers probably not highly representative but the relative numbers are meaningful to measure adoption. And no, it requires the user to disable authentication in order to get the service details to differentiate between Redis and Valkey. But again, you can compare unauthenticated Redis to unauthenticated Valkey to see how the percentages are changing over time.